[MD] MOQ Recursion

[MarshaV]

Arlo:
 When you stop deifying the Word...  


Marsha:
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On Aug 10, 2010, at 12:30 AM, ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote:

> [Marsha]
> Yes, because we are suspended in language RMP used patterns of the intellectual
> variety to explain the MoQ.
> 
> [Arlo]
> No. The MoQ is the intellectual patterns RMP uses to explain Quality.
> 
> Besides, even you can't pretend that all language is "SOM", since language
> predated the Greeks by thousands of years, and hence can't be "SOM". Suspension
> in language, then, is a facet of analogy not "SOM".
> 
> [Marsha]
> The MoQ represents a specific metaphysics.   
> 
> [Arlo]
> The MoQ does not "represent" a specific metaphysics. It IS a specific
> metaphysics.
> 
> [Marsha]
> I reject your biblical analogies. 
> 
> [Arlo]
> When you stop deifying the Word, this will be a good rejection. In any event,
> substitute whatever "book" you want. Books describing "reality" do not "say"
> anything, the authors do the saying. To say something like "War and Peace
> says..." is narrative genre and nothing more, it was Dostoevsky that did the
> "saying"...
> 
> [Marsha]
> What you mind or don't mind should matter to me how? 
> 
> [Arlo]
> In this case, because it demonstrates a huge stumbling block that comes up
> again and again... you elevate the map to the terrain, and think the map is the
> terrain it describes. 
> 
> [Marsha]
> Do we need to go back to your statements that all is analogy? 
> 
> [Arlo]
> If you think it helps you avoid the subject at hand, go for it. 
> 
> But remember, Pirsig's metaphysics are an analogy to describe "reality". They
> do not precede analogy. 
> 
> Once here, they are a high-quality analogy, a high-quality intellectual pattern
> used to "slice and dice" Quality into a meaningful framework of understanding.
> 
> Bo's SOL is an analogy too. So is all metaphysics. That's what metaphysics are,
> attempts at defining and analyzing "reality", the creation of analogies,
> intellectual patterns of value, to help us see the unseeable void.
> 
> And if copying and pasting your little slogans helps you avoid the
> inconsistencies of your analogies, knock yourself out. 
> 
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