[MD] MOQ Recursion

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Mary.

On 9 Aug. Mary wrote to Arlo: :

> No, we don't agree here.  This conversation is not possible.  To
> answer you in an Intellectual Level context, they are Intellectual
> concepts.  It's the context that is flawed.  It would be the same if
> we were discussing particle physics.  If one of us was a priest trying
> to fit particle physics into a religious framework and the other was
> trying to talk about it as understood scientifically, what basis for
> conversation would we have?  Would any real understanding be possible?

Bo's superfluous comment:
This is it all in a nutshell. We see things from the MOQ while Arlo's 
p.o.v is the intellectual level - must be because in his view the MOQ is 
an intellectual pattern - and from intellect seen the term "intellect" is a 
mindish realm where descriptions of reality are, while MOQ's 4th. level 
is SOM, i.e. the value of - among countless S/Os - the 
description/reality one.   

[Mary again to Arlo]
> I have a question for you now.  How does equating Quality, Values, and
> Morals with Intellectual concepts progress an understanding of the
> MOQ?  If, as you say, the levels of Quality are Intellectual concepts,
> how does this clarify what is meant by a pattern of values?  What
> makes this different from a subject-object understanding?

Spot, on but Arlo no doubt will return with the MOQ - its levels and all -  
as intellectual concepts different from Quality ...etc.  We'll see.

Bodvar