[MD] Quality and Chaos

[MarshaV]

On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Krimel wrote:

> Marsha:
> Yes, this is true for the long run, but in the short-run they are valuable.
> 
> Maybe it's the attachment to an expected result at having obtained the 
> 'object' of desire that is the cause of suffering.  
> 
> [Krimel]
> But see there you use those words "value" and "excepted". Both are the
> causes of suffering. They are sources of pain because in a chaotic world we
> always lose what we value and our expectations are frequently violated. 
> 
> Lowered expectation is a sure cure for suffering but personally I find
> almost no consolation in that. But then I don't find much solace in
> submission to a "chaotic" will either. On the other hand I dearly love the
> Jew's ironic attitude to all this. You know stuff like this:
> 
> God, I know we are your chosen people, but couldn't you choose somebody else
> for a change?
> - Shalom Aleichem
> 
> Let me tell you the one thing I have against Moses. He took us forty years
> into the desert in order to bring us to the one place in the Middle East
> that has no oil!
> - Golda Meir
> 
> If the rich could hire the poor to die for them, the poor would make a very
> nice living. 
> - Jewish Proverb
> 
> I'm Jewish. I don't work out. If God had wanted us to bend over, He would
> have put diamonds on the floor.
> - Joan Rivers
> 
> Not a lot of bull shit about oughts just bemused acceptance of is-ness.


Marsha:
Just a final note to voice my dislike of oughts, shoulds and the like, even 
something like compassion for me should exist by internal combustion,
not someone else's suggestion or commandment.  




 
___