[MD] Quality and Chaos

[MarshaV]

On Aug 12, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Krimel wrote:

>> Marsha:
>> Just a final note to voice my dislike of oughts, shoulds and the like,
> even 
>> something like compassion for me should exist by internal combustion,
>> not someone else's suggestion or commandment.  
>> 
>> [Krimel]
>> Yeah, I get that. Reminds me of another underrated Christian notion:
>> revelation. It is like insight, or enlightenment. Truth get "revealed" to
>> us.
> 
> [Marsha]
> I emptied the Christian teacup long ago.
> 
> [Krimel]
> I have noticed your kneejerk reaction which is why I bring it up now and
> then, of course. I too find much in modern Christianity that is contemptible
> but I also find a great deal of value. I was talking to one of my devoutly
> atheistic offspring recently and I mentioned that it was entirely possible
> for an atheist to be a Christian. 
> 
> After all, if I claim to be a Christian who's to say I am not. Now I might
> be refused into the fellowship of particular Christians but fuck them, they
> are not the boss of me. If I claim to be a Kantian or a logical atomist or a
> wizard or a bard, who is to say I am not whatever I claim to be.
> 
> In the end, I said, that while I can think of ways and reasons for calling
> myself a Christian I don't; mostly because I don't want to be associated in
> any way with the hordes of assholes who do.
> 
>> [Krimel]
>> We really don't much use that light or see that revelation, unless
>> we feel we have some hand in flipping the switch. 
> 
> [Marsha]
> Flipping the switch, to me, means turning off thought for a bit as in:   
> 
> "While sustaining biological and social patterns
> Kill all intellectual patterns.
> Kill them completely
> And then follow Dynamic Quality
> And morality will be served"
>   (LILA, Chapter 32)
> 
> [Krimel]
> But when the light gets switched back on, as it always does, it is pretty
> much the same shit in a different light.

Marsha:
But a different light can make big chances to what is seen and how 
experience is evaluated.  Shit can turn into rich fertilizer.   

 

 
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