[MD] Theocracy, Secularism, and Democracy
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Mon Aug 16 03:07:03 PDT 2010
On Aug 16, 2010, at 5:49 AM, Andre Broersen wrote:
> Arlo to Marsha:
> I likened your elevation of "the MOQ" to the reality it describes as ANALOGOUS to the elevation "the Word" into the God.
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> I went on to say, after your knee-jerk distortion, that you could drop the
> bible analogy and say its analogous to turning the map into the territory.
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> Andre:
> Hi Arlo, I have noticed the same reasoning with Bodvar (of course). He sees the difference between, for example the map/territory or verbal/non-verbal etc etc all as indications of the old SOM and therefore to be rejected from the MOQ point of view. The reasoning is that a map is an inorganic pattern of value, words are a social pattern of value. They are value, therefore Quality (capital Q)... okay it is static, but Quality just the same and therefore Reality. So to argue a distinction between the two is to swear in church, fall back into the SOMish mind and be hopelessly misguided...a weak interpreter.
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> The map IS the territory.
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> The word IS what it says it is.
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> Therefore, the MOQ, as an idea, as a written document, IS Reality...IS Quality.
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> Krimel was therefore correct when he pointed out to Bodvar that cannibalism and human sacrifice is not confined to Islam but in fact practiced among many Christians every week as the central theme of their liturgy.
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> 'If you ask a Catholic priest if the wafer he holds at mass is really the flesh of Jesus Christ, he will say yes. If you ask,'Do you mean symbolically?' he will answer,'No, I mean actually'.(LILA p 404, Alma Books).
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> For in the beginning was the word and the word was god. The MOQ a religion... NO! Reality!!
>
Andre,
Even 'Reality' is an analogue.
Marsha
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