[MD] Unkludging the MoQ.

[David Thomas]

Hi Bo,

Again you managed to talk for several paragraphs and never address any of
tough questions. You agree with RMP that "dancing" is a social pattern of
quality. That was not in dispute from the start. On one hand you claim the
the only type of reasoning available to the intellect is subject/object
based and yet in this case your S/O reasoning has no earthly idea what
dancing might be. Sounds like at least in your case using the MoQ is
regression. 

Dave


On 8/16/10 10:28 AM, "skutvik at online.no" <skutvik at online.no> wrote:

> Hi DT
> 
> 15 Aug. you asked:
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>> Since I clearly don't get it perhaps you could enlighten me. (about the
>> social level) 
> 
>> So under MoQ what is "dancing"? Pirsig is quite clear that he believes
>> it is a social pattern of value. Do you agree him? If you do, what is,
>> the static social pattern of called "dancing"? Is it the
>> word,"dancing". In all its possible manifestations from print to
>> thought. Is it physical movements that people do to music? Is it a
>> visual and aural brain pattern I get while watching people do physical
>> movements to music on the TV show "So You Think You Can Dance"?
> 
> I agree with "dance" being a ritual and as such  a social pattern, but its
> function may vary wildly.  "War dance" was/is to work themselves into
> a will to kill and ignore biological pain. Some other dance ritual among
> "natives" was to invoke other powers, forces, ecstasies. The "civilized"
> ball-room dancing  served the purpose of bringing the sexes together
> under decent - ritualized - circumstances. The disco and "house"
> dance is  an intellectual parody of the social ritual, the individuals use
> of  drugs a way of access to biology without by way of its arch enemy
> society .       
> 
>> If I dream of boogying with Hallie Berry is that dancing?
> 
> Don't tell me you limited yourself to boogying so that was not dancing.
> ;-)      
> 
>> Just what in reality, is it really?
> 
> There is no reality beyond the Quality Reality, but the various static
> levels has their own reality  and  when "leading edge" this was that
> epoch's metaphysics. While it ruled as SOM intellect made us believe
> in a real (objective) reality different from the apparent (subjective)
> reality.   
> 
> IMO
> 
> Bodvar
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