[MD] Social level for humans only

John Carl ridgecoyote at gmail.com
Sun Aug 22 10:00:50 PDT 2010


Craig,

Your example doesn't quite satisfy me.  I've seen the alpha  stand back and
let his underlings do the dirty work, in humans AND dogs.

I think the word "institution" you bring out is important, because it
illustrates that  for a social pattern to be instituted, it requires
intellectual affirmation and transferance to intellectual encoding.  Humans
are uniquely intellectual, and so their social patterns almost always
includes this intellectual element.  Bur for the distinction between social
and intellectual patterning to remain meaningful, we really have to consider
those commonalities between the alpha dog and the sargeant at arms.

John



On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:39 PM, <craigerb at comcast.net> wrote:

> Mammal motherhood is all about nuturing & a major component of nurturing
> is--
> to use the buzz-word--"socialization" of the infant.
> (Report card "citizenship" grade: "Works & plays well with others".)
> But if you think of the 3rd level as the "Institutional Level",
> then you're less likely to attribute it to rats & bees.
> Consider the alpha male in a gorilla troop & the commander of a calvary
> troop:
> If you defy the alpha male, you get your butt kicked.  If you defy the
> commander,
> you get thrown in the brig & the guards kick your butt.
> If this were the only difference, they would be on the same level.
> But IMHO Pirsig noticed something more; something to do with, possibly,
> normative rule-governed behavior.
> Craig
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