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[MarshaV]

Hi Krimel,

I would only seriously question your disparaging remarks about Buddhism.  
I don't find it bland at all.  Emptiness is like when "The Tao is called the Great 
Mother: empty yet inexhaustible, it gives birth to infinite worlds.  It is always 
present within you."

But it is impossible to play pin the tail on the donkey with you, so I will not 
quibble with your point-of-view.  Besides you make me laugh, with joy and 
delight, and I love you for that.


Marsha  









On Aug 23, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Krimel wrote:

>> [Krimel]
>> Or this one: Pirsig's real contribution could be taken as synthesizing
>> Darwin and Lao Tsu. Much of my vitriol arises from the realization that he
>> or at least his apologists don't quite seem to get either of them right.
> 
> Marsha:
> The MoQ is based on Darwin and the Tao?  
> 
> [Krimel]
> I thought so until I got here.
> 
> [Marsha]
> Anyone besides you think that this is so? 
> 
> [Krimel]
> Maybe.
> 
> [Marsha]
> First, evolution has changed considerably since the days of Darwin's
> publications...
> 
> [Krimel]
> That's what theories do. They evolve.
> 
> [Marsha]
> ...the evolution of species is quite different than the evolution of static
> patterns.  
> 
> [Krimel]
> Not really. Species are static patterns. "Species" is a probabilistic
> distribution of traits. A mean moving through time.
> 
> [Marsha]
> Second, RMP has equated the MoQ as much with Buddhism
> (Emptiness/conventional reality) as with the Tao, more in fact. 
> 
> [Krimel]
> His does seem to have bought the sizzle and ignored the steak.
> 
> [Marsha]
> RMP does not mention any relationship between yin/yang and the MoQ. 
> 
> [Krimel]
> Read the book many times. 
> Made his personal copy by hand. 
> But did understand a word of it?
> I found that hard to accept.
> It remains a source of disappoint.
> 
> [Marsha]
> And a thorough study of the correlation between the Tao's good and the MoQ's
> good has not yet been firmly established, 
> 
> [Krimel]
> The Tao talks about the Way of Virtue, the path of harmony and balance. Good
> is not something to be firmly established. Harmony is the balance that
> sings... in tune... to the beat...
> 
> Betterness is a whim. 
> A distraction
> A transition
> A figment of the future
> Always to come never here
> 
> [Marsha]
> while the relationship between Emptiness(Nothingness) and DQ has been
> clearly stated.  
> 
> [Krimel]
> Muddled pandering to dreamers.
> 
> [Marsha]
> And to my mind, a moving away from suffering is a move towards betterment. 
> 
> [Krimel]
> At the price of infinite indifference?
> Better the peaks and troughs of a thrill ride than the stagnation of a
> placid pool of bland detachment.
> 
> [Marsha]
> While I find your 6-point MoQ interpretation interesting, it represents 
> only your opinion and nothing more.  
> 
> [Krimel]
> I make no other claim for it.
> 
>> [Marsha]
>> ...I gladly whip the both of you if you were before me. 
>> 
>> [Krimel]
>> If you could provide maybe a few details on how you would go about this, I
>> might actually be interested, Mistress.
> 
> [Marsha]
> You are sooooo fresh!!!  
> 
> [Krimel]
> A fantasy of anticipated excess.
> There're the peaks and troughs
> There's the meaning of what's fresh.
> 
> 
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