[MD] Speed of Lighting, Roar of thunder...

[Krimel]

> [Krimel]
> Or this one: Pirsig's real contribution could be taken as synthesizing
> Darwin and Lao Tsu. Much of my vitriol arises from the realization that he
> or at least his apologists don't quite seem to get either of them right.

Marsha:
The MoQ is based on Darwin and the Tao?  

[Krimel]
I thought so until I got here.

[Marsha]
Anyone besides you think that this is so? 

[Krimel]
Maybe.

[Marsha]
First, evolution has changed considerably since the days of Darwin's
publications...

[Krimel]
That's what theories do. They evolve.

[Marsha]
...the evolution of species is quite different than the evolution of static
patterns.  

[Krimel]
Not really. Species are static patterns. "Species" is a probabilistic
distribution of traits. A mean moving through time.

[Marsha]
Second, RMP has equated the MoQ as much with Buddhism
(Emptiness/conventional reality) as with the Tao, more in fact. 

[Krimel]
His does seem to have bought the sizzle and ignored the steak.

[Marsha]
RMP does not mention any relationship between yin/yang and the MoQ. 

[Krimel]
Read the book many times. 
Made his personal copy by hand. 
But did understand a word of it?
I found that hard to accept.
It remains a source of disappoint.

[Marsha]
And a thorough study of the correlation between the Tao's good and the MoQ's
good has not yet been firmly established, 

[Krimel]
The Tao talks about the Way of Virtue, the path of harmony and balance. Good
is not something to be firmly established. Harmony is the balance that
sings... in tune... to the beat...

Betterness is a whim. 
A distraction
A transition
A figment of the future
Always to come never here

[Marsha]
while the relationship between Emptiness(Nothingness) and DQ has been
clearly stated.  

[Krimel]
Muddled pandering to dreamers.

[Marsha]
And to my mind, a moving away from suffering is a move towards betterment. 

[Krimel]
At the price of infinite indifference?
Better the peaks and troughs of a thrill ride than the stagnation of a
placid pool of bland detachment.

[Marsha]
While I find your 6-point MoQ interpretation interesting, it represents 
only your opinion and nothing more.  

[Krimel]
I make no other claim for it.
 
> [Marsha]
> ...I gladly whip the both of you if you were before me. 
> 
> [Krimel]
> If you could provide maybe a few details on how you would go about this, I
> might actually be interested, Mistress.

[Marsha]
You are sooooo fresh!!!  

[Krimel]
A fantasy of anticipated excess.
There're the peaks and troughs
There's the meaning of what's fresh.