[MD] Social level for humans only

[MarshaV]

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On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:45 PM, X Acto wrote:

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> There is no "you" in my mind
> only bitter rhetoric and bullshit hypocritical opinions
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> Having the nerve to chastize someone elses illusions
> and projections as dillusional while hoisting your own
> as truth.
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> what an asshole
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> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 4:34:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Social level for humans only
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> On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:32 PM, X Acto wrote:
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>> Marsha said:
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>> John,  
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>> I'm not talking about what was said while quilting in a group, and I 
>> not talking about your psychological gender nonsense either.
>> I'm talking about the power men used through the Church of Religion 
>> and the Church of Reason to define woman, and their place within 
>> society.  Women were not even permitted to vote until the last 
>> century.  Women can project valuable and interesting ideas too if 
>> they were not for centuries prohibited from doing so on threat of 
>> death.
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>> Your crack about 'neti, neti' is pure foolishness.  It represents more 
>> than you understand, but of course, I get only what you project a
>> woman might think.  Probed and understood?  Fuck probed and 
>> understood.  Probe and understand your own illusions instead 
>> of erecting a tower of babel.  
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>> Ron:
>> Talk about hypocritical bullshit!  
>> "  The power men used through the Church of Religion 
>> and the Church of Reason to define woman, and their place within 
>> society." illusion after illusion, projections of projections.
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>> Bitter and small.
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> Marsha: 
> Yes, Ron, I'm bitter and small in your mind.  
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>> On Aug 23, 2010, at 2:49 PM, John Carl wrote:
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>>> Marsha said,
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>>>> Agree, but I don't know that women are privileged to be in the position to
>>>> intellectualize (define) what men are like.
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>>> From the dawn of time, women have sat in circles and done exactly that,
>>> Marsha.  And they probably get a lot closer to the truth of the matter than
>>> men would find comfortable.
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>>> While men, when they get together, freely admit they don't understand women.
>>> So undoubtedly there's differing approaches.
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>>> For one example, it seems that men try much harder to put themselves out
>>> there.  Men are outwardly projectionistic, thrusting their ideas and
>>> thoughts out at the world.  Whereas women seem to relish being inward and
>>> secretive and mysterious, going all "not this, not that" or "fuck your
>>> questions" to avoid being probed and understood.
>>> 
>>> Dan Bern's question, "do you like me, or are you ignoring me?" is a question
>>> that takes balls to ask.
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>>> Big balls.
>>> 
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ5t2Qr0q80
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