[MD] Speed of Lighting, Roar of thunder...

[MarshaV]

Ah well, it's Ian who decides when an issue is too contentious
to consider a wikipedia quote.  

So all I have to say is:  that's interesting.    



On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:04 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:

> Marsha asked of Krim ...
> 
>> The MoQ is based on Darwin and the Tao?  Anyone besides you think
>> that this is so?
> 
> [IG] Yes, clearly.
> 
>> First, evolution has changed considerably since the days
>> of Darwin's publications, and the evolution of species is quite different than
>> the evolution of static patterns.
> 
> [IG] Clearly again, the model of evolution has itself evolved as both
> Darwin and Pirsig would predict and continues to do so. I see no
> difference in the evolutionary processes .... I regularly use the word
> "species" to denote any static pattern. Species are "special" in the
> sense of being distinct, long-lived over multiple generations, and
> therefore self-sustaining, repairing / reproducing over many
> generations .... in all levels above the organic (not just
> biological).
> 
> Clearly Darwin didn't have the benefit of  a Taoist monism at the
> heart of his thinking .... GOF phyisicalist scientific objectivism
> only .... but see above. Neither Darwin nor Pirsig, nor any of us
> (their interpreters) have it 100% right, that would be terminal. I
> tend to be less critical of that fact, but I wouldn't argue for
> perfection.
> 
> Ian



 
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