[MD] Speed of Lighting, Roar of thunder...

[MarshaV]

Oh, and:  Nice try.   


On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:16 AM, MarshaV wrote:

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> Ah well, it's Ian who decides when an issue is too contentious
> to consider a wikipedia quote.  
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> So all I have to say is:  that's interesting.    
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> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:04 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
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>> Marsha asked of Krim ...
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>>> The MoQ is based on Darwin and the Tao?  Anyone besides you think
>>> that this is so?
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>> [IG] Yes, clearly.
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>>> First, evolution has changed considerably since the days
>>> of Darwin's publications, and the evolution of species is quite different than
>>> the evolution of static patterns.
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>> [IG] Clearly again, the model of evolution has itself evolved as both
>> Darwin and Pirsig would predict and continues to do so. I see no
>> difference in the evolutionary processes .... I regularly use the word
>> "species" to denote any static pattern. Species are "special" in the
>> sense of being distinct, long-lived over multiple generations, and
>> therefore self-sustaining, repairing / reproducing over many
>> generations .... in all levels above the organic (not just
>> biological).
>> 
>> Clearly Darwin didn't have the benefit of  a Taoist monism at the
>> heart of his thinking .... GOF phyisicalist scientific objectivism
>> only .... but see above. Neither Darwin nor Pirsig, nor any of us
>> (their interpreters) have it 100% right, that would be terminal. I
>> tend to be less critical of that fact, but I wouldn't argue for
>> perfection.
>> 
>> Ian
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