[MD] Speed of Lighting, Roar of thunder...

Ian Glendinning ian.glendinning at gmail.com
Wed Aug 25 05:27:58 PDT 2010


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On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:22 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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> Oh, and:  Nice try.
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> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:16 AM, MarshaV wrote:
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>> Ah well, it's Ian who decides when an issue is too contentious
>> to consider a wikipedia quote.
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>> So all I have to say is:  that's interesting.
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>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:04 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
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>>> Marsha asked of Krim ...
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>>>> The MoQ is based on Darwin and the Tao?  Anyone besides you think
>>>> that this is so?
>>>
>>> [IG] Yes, clearly.
>>>
>>>> First, evolution has changed considerably since the days
>>>> of Darwin's publications, and the evolution of species is quite different than
>>>> the evolution of static patterns.
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>>> [IG] Clearly again, the model of evolution has itself evolved as both
>>> Darwin and Pirsig would predict and continues to do so. I see no
>>> difference in the evolutionary processes .... I regularly use the word
>>> "species" to denote any static pattern. Species are "special" in the
>>> sense of being distinct, long-lived over multiple generations, and
>>> therefore self-sustaining, repairing / reproducing over many
>>> generations .... in all levels above the organic (not just
>>> biological).
>>>
>>> Clearly Darwin didn't have the benefit of  a Taoist monism at the
>>> heart of his thinking .... GOF phyisicalist scientific objectivism
>>> only .... but see above. Neither Darwin nor Pirsig, nor any of us
>>> (their interpreters) have it 100% right, that would be terminal. I
>>> tend to be less critical of that fact, but I wouldn't argue for
>>> perfection.
>>>
>>> Ian
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