[MD] Speed of Lighting, Roar of thunder...

[MarshaV]

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On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:40 AM, MarshaV wrote:

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> I like the Beatles with Pink Floyd video.   
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> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
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>> Poetry beats sarcasm - 'cos Ian says so ;-)
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>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:33 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>> "Cold hearted orb that rules the night
>>> Removes the colours from our sight
>>> Red is grey and yellow white
>>> But we decide which is right
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>>> And which is an illusion"
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>>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
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>>>> Sarcasm 1 Content 0 ?
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>>>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:22 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>>>> Oh, and:  Nice try.
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>>>>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:16 AM, MarshaV wrote:
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>>>>>> Ah well, it's Ian who decides when an issue is too contentious
>>>>>> to consider a wikipedia quote.
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>>>>>> So all I have to say is:  that's interesting.
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>>>>>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:04 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
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>>>>>>> Marsha asked of Krim ...
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>>>>>>>> The MoQ is based on Darwin and the Tao?  Anyone besides you think
>>>>>>>> that this is so?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [IG] Yes, clearly.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> First, evolution has changed considerably since the days
>>>>>>>> of Darwin's publications, and the evolution of species is quite different than
>>>>>>>> the evolution of static patterns.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [IG] Clearly again, the model of evolution has itself evolved as both
>>>>>>> Darwin and Pirsig would predict and continues to do so. I see no
>>>>>>> difference in the evolutionary processes .... I regularly use the word
>>>>>>> "species" to denote any static pattern. Species are "special" in the
>>>>>>> sense of being distinct, long-lived over multiple generations, and
>>>>>>> therefore self-sustaining, repairing / reproducing over many
>>>>>>> generations .... in all levels above the organic (not just
>>>>>>> biological).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Clearly Darwin didn't have the benefit of  a Taoist monism at the
>>>>>>> heart of his thinking .... GOF phyisicalist scientific objectivism
>>>>>>> only .... but see above. Neither Darwin nor Pirsig, nor any of us
>>>>>>> (their interpreters) have it 100% right, that would be terminal. I
>>>>>>> tend to be less critical of that fact, but I wouldn't argue for
>>>>>>> perfection.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ian
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