[MD] Speed of Lighting, Roar of thunder...

[MarshaV]

I like the Beatles with Pink Floyd video.   
  


On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:

> Poetry beats sarcasm - 'cos Ian says so ;-)
> 
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:33 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> "Cold hearted orb that rules the night
>> Removes the colours from our sight
>> Red is grey and yellow white
>> But we decide which is right
>> 
>> And which is an illusion"
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>> 
>>> Sarcasm 1 Content 0 ?
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:22 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Oh, and:  Nice try.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:16 AM, MarshaV wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ah well, it's Ian who decides when an issue is too contentious
>>>>> to consider a wikipedia quote.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So all I have to say is:  that's interesting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:04 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marsha asked of Krim ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The MoQ is based on Darwin and the Tao?  Anyone besides you think
>>>>>>> that this is so?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [IG] Yes, clearly.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> First, evolution has changed considerably since the days
>>>>>>> of Darwin's publications, and the evolution of species is quite different than
>>>>>>> the evolution of static patterns.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [IG] Clearly again, the model of evolution has itself evolved as both
>>>>>> Darwin and Pirsig would predict and continues to do so. I see no
>>>>>> difference in the evolutionary processes .... I regularly use the word
>>>>>> "species" to denote any static pattern. Species are "special" in the
>>>>>> sense of being distinct, long-lived over multiple generations, and
>>>>>> therefore self-sustaining, repairing / reproducing over many
>>>>>> generations .... in all levels above the organic (not just
>>>>>> biological).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Clearly Darwin didn't have the benefit of  a Taoist monism at the
>>>>>> heart of his thinking .... GOF phyisicalist scientific objectivism
>>>>>> only .... but see above. Neither Darwin nor Pirsig, nor any of us
>>>>>> (their interpreters) have it 100% right, that would be terminal. I
>>>>>> tend to be less critical of that fact, but I wouldn't argue for
>>>>>> perfection.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ian
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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