[MD] Speed of Lighting, Roar of thunder...

[Ian Glendinning]

Poetry beats sarcasm - 'cos Ian says so ;-)

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:33 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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> "Cold hearted orb that rules the night
> Removes the colours from our sight
> Red is grey and yellow white
> But we decide which is right
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> And which is an illusion"
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> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
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>> Sarcasm 1 Content 0 ?
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>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:22 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>> Oh, and:  Nice try.
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>>>
>>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:16 AM, MarshaV wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah well, it's Ian who decides when an issue is too contentious
>>>> to consider a wikipedia quote.
>>>>
>>>> So all I have to say is:  that's interesting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:04 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
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>>>>> Marsha asked of Krim ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> The MoQ is based on Darwin and the Tao?  Anyone besides you think
>>>>>> that this is so?
>>>>>
>>>>> [IG] Yes, clearly.
>>>>>
>>>>>> First, evolution has changed considerably since the days
>>>>>> of Darwin's publications, and the evolution of species is quite different than
>>>>>> the evolution of static patterns.
>>>>>
>>>>> [IG] Clearly again, the model of evolution has itself evolved as both
>>>>> Darwin and Pirsig would predict and continues to do so. I see no
>>>>> difference in the evolutionary processes .... I regularly use the word
>>>>> "species" to denote any static pattern. Species are "special" in the
>>>>> sense of being distinct, long-lived over multiple generations, and
>>>>> therefore self-sustaining, repairing / reproducing over many
>>>>> generations .... in all levels above the organic (not just
>>>>> biological).
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly Darwin didn't have the benefit of  a Taoist monism at the
>>>>> heart of his thinking .... GOF phyisicalist scientific objectivism
>>>>> only .... but see above. Neither Darwin nor Pirsig, nor any of us
>>>>> (their interpreters) have it 100% right, that would be terminal. I
>>>>> tend to be less critical of that fact, but I wouldn't argue for
>>>>> perfection.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian
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