[MD] Theocracy, Secularism, and Democracy

X Acto xacto at rocketmail.com
Fri Aug 27 18:21:30 PDT 2010


What was that Quote Matt scooped from Emerson?
About consistancy being the hobgoblin of small minds?

-r



----- Original Message ----
From: Arlo Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 12:54:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Theocracy, Secularism, and Democracy

[Ron]
I can understand, this is a very heated topic. One that requires some care in 
explanation.

[Arlo]
This just crossed my desk.

"On Friday, August 27th Glenn Beck presents America's Divine Destiny from the 
Kennedy Center in Washington, DC. Join Glenn Beck for an inspiring look at the 
role faith played in the founding of America and the role it will play again in 
its destiny. The audience for the event will be overwhelmingly made up of 
pastors, ministers and clergy..." 
(http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/44014/)

[Platt had said]
Ron has nailed it. There's no separation of church and state in Islam.

[Arlo goes on]
I had said previously, "I think the clear evidence shows many on the right that 
would welcome tearing down the walls of church and state in this country, 
provided the church was their own, of course..."

And I had mentioned the BBC program "The Power of Nightmares". Consider this 
from the beginning of Part One, discussing one of the founders of the modern 
"neoconservative" movement, Leo Strauss.

"It was for politicians to assert powerful and inspiring myths that everyone 
could believe in. They might not be true, but they were necessary illusions. One 
of these was religion; the other was the myth of the nation. And in America, 
that was the idea that the country had a unique destiny to battle the forces of 
evil throughout the world." (The Power of Nightmares, BBC Transcript)

Re-read that transcript segment, and then go back and re-read the blurb from 
Glenn Beck's website.

[Platt had said]
Ron has nailed it. There's no separation of church and state in Islam.

[Arlo goes on again]
Shortly after condemning Islam for failing to separate church and state, Platt 
responded to DMB with the following comment.

"We should not overlook atheist North Korea nor the 20th century atheist  
countries of  Russia, China and Cambodia whose citizens were murdered by the
tens of millions. As for atheist countries like Sweden, a study by the Swedish 
Research Institute of Trade found that if Sweden were a U.S. state, it would be 
the poorest measured by household gross income before taxes."

Does this sound like an argument "for" or "against" the separation of church and 
state?



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