[MD] Able to change well.
schoadabyool at talktalk.net
schoadabyool at talktalk.net
Sat Aug 28 09:39:47 PDT 2010
Hello Magnus,
Hi Ade
On 2010-08-28 13:27, schoadabyool at talktalk.net wrote:
>
> @ I'm not sure i have noticed this Magnus. Everyone here uses
> divisions all the time don't they? In fact, divisions are a precursor
> to being here in the first place, even for Frank.
Yes, everyone use divisions, but I think the MoQ can be used to show how reality really works, its ontology, not just how we perceive it.
> @ Thanks. You note that chemistry obeys static laws. So Oxygen has to
> behave in a certain way when in the presence of Hydrogen, and it
> can't do otherwise. Then you note there is another behaviour which
> chemicals can adopt, which is not restricted to the static laws of
> chemistry. You call this biology. The key seems to be a combination
> of static and freedom to choose, or free will as you call it. This
> chimes with Robert Pirsig's account it seems to me. But i still ask
> how? What is the interface between static and freedom?
Hmm.. it seems I must have missed what you mean by "how". Could you show me an example and point to the interface you ask about?
@ I reckon there must be an interface.
There isn't one if static is an illusion so that's that and we can forget it.
But if static is accepted, then it stands in some relation to Dynamic.
One way of doing away with the relationship would be to adopt Marsha's point that there is no static. Marsha pointed out that what we perceive to be static may be changing, so the word static is in this case too insistent.
Here is an example, Jung places emphasis on homeostasis. Our dreams serve the function of bringing balance between what we are and what we are becoming. What we are is an individuation of Archetypes reaching for wholeness to take Jung at his word.
If homeostasis fails then there is an illness of the personality, which has failed to adapt and must find a way of reaching homeostasis. This seems to be Robert Pirsig's biography, and we can all share that feeling. In his case, it was dealt with in a brutal and uncivilised way.
Homeostasis is the interface in my example, and how homeostasis works is by maintaining balance.
If we replace static by homeostasis then you may see what i mean. If homeostasis is rigid then it appears static because now i can use the word static to mean rigid homeostasis. If homeostasis is lost then there is an illness of the personality.
> I understand all this may be useless chatter for anyone who does not
> value theory. But i hope we can live side by side in any case.
Probably, but many other posts are useless chatter to us, at least me, but we have to, as you say, live with it.
Magnus
@ I shall accept your view of my posts rather than twist your arm.
Thanks
Ade
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