[MD] Stuck on a Torn Slot

[Arlo Bensinger]

[Ron]
That is why it is so important to clearly make 
the distinction between intellect=SOM theory with 
Pirsigs expansion of reason. The consequences, are vastly
different.

[Arlo]
I think this is exactly right, and this is the 
reason I've been asking, to no avail, of all the 
SOL-ists to articulate why they find the 
Intellect=SOM view better than Pirsig's 
Intellect!=SOM view. What consequences of this do they see as BETTER?

[Ron]
Which brings about something I've been 
contemplating regarding what Nietzsche said about 
philosophy being unable to cure an ailing culture.

[Arlo]
Arnold Toynbee makes the same point, as quoted in 
Campbell's Hero with a Thousand Faces. "schism in 
the soul, schism in the body social, will not be 
resolved by any scheme of return to the good old 
days (archaism), or by programs guaranteed to 
render an ideal projected future (futurism), or 
even by the most realistic, hardheaded work to 
weld together again the deteriorating elements. 
Only birth can conquer death—the birth, not of 
the old thing again, but of something new... 
Peace then is a snare; war is a snare; change is 
a snare; permanence a snare. When our day is come 
for the victory of death, death closes in; there 
is nothing we can do, except be crucified—and 
resurrected; dismembered totally, and then reborn."

I've thought for a while that DQ is too 
rhetorically confined to the creative aspect and 
is better understood as the Hindu Trimurti, which 
encapsules "creation, maintenance, and 
destruction". That is, DQ "destroys" as much as 
it "creates", or better said "creation always 
comes with destruction". Every act of creation 
occurs in the midst of destruction and transformation.