[MD] The Academy is Evil! Here's what I'd do instead...

118 ununoctiums at gmail.com
Thu Dec 2 16:27:11 PST 2010


Hmmm, no.  But I have at least held jobs.  Sure beats doing what you
are doing.  Who is supporting you now?  I can't believe that someone
who has never held a real job is taking a position here.  Go get your
next handout, dude.

You sir, are a good example of the problem with the world today

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 4:10 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Got fired for your crackpot ideas, didn't you? And you take that to mean that the whole world is wrong and you're right. Huh?
> Like I said, the immune system is there for a reason. You sir, are exhibit "A" in the case for strict academic standards.
>
>>
>> Hi dmb,
>>
>> Are you kidding me?  How many academic professionals do you know?  You
>> are operating in a dream world, dmb.  I don't even feel like setting you
>> straight.  I suppose if you agree with the way academics is going, then you
>> are part of the problem.  Do you think continuing tenure is based on
>> intellectual qualities?   Perhaps you spent too much time in the ivory
>> tower.  Maybe you want to become a professor.  Well, if you can't do, then
>> you teach, so it may be appropriate.  Get out now and again, it might do you
>> good.  Please don't insult us with your naivete.  It makes this forum
>> look ridiculous.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:38 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > John said:
>> > ...I'm certainly not a fan of any kind of "anything goes" mentality which
>> > throws open the doors to any nutjob with a holy book and an agenda. ...But
>> > the wholesale adoption of a values-free worldview, and the almost
>> > police-state-like imposition of this worldview has crippled true
>> > intellectual debate and growth oughta be checked somehow.
>> >
>> > dmb says:
>> > Police state-like imposition of a values-free worldview? That doesn't sound
>> > like a fair criticism of academia. It sounds more like a paranoid conspiracy
>> > theory. In the real world, I think it would be hard to find an academic
>> > professional who did not rate academic freedom as one the their most
>> > cherished ideals. The ability to think independently, critically and
>> > creatively are the things that earn respect in that that world. To the
>> > extent that intellectuals get famous or earn a good reputation, it's based
>> > on intellectual qualities. And what's wrong with that? Why shouldn't we
>> > value good thinking and good ideas? If there is a better way to do it,
>> > nobody has thought of it yet. But you can bet your bottom dollar that there
>> > is a small tribe of scholars working on that question too.
>> >
>> > Police state, my ass. Try to find any institution that's more open to new
>> > ideas or more concerned with intellectual freedom. I honestly can't think of
>> > one single example. Can you?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
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