[MD] Sex, Rape and Law in a MOQ
Horse
horse at darkstar.uk.net
Sun Dec 5 07:45:33 PST 2010
Sexual behaviour and strategies are built into the biological level -
otherwise there would be no biological level and nothing for the social
level to emerge from. Sex and reproduction developed at the biological
level - later, social rituals evolved around sex.
On 05/12/2010 15:23, MarshaV wrote:
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> Hi Horse,
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> I see the biological level more process-bound, therefore reproduction. In my book sex is more about cultural rituals, therefore social level. It's the strategies within the culture to accomplish the biological process.
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> Marsha
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> On Dec 5, 2010, at 9:55 AM, Horse wrote:
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>> Hi Marsha
>> Or how about sex is one method by which the means of reproduction is achieved - there are other methods of reproduction. And, often, we get to sex by the social 'dance' - literally in some cases! The only way I can see sex as social is when group sex or orgies are on the menu - making sex about pleasure and not reproduction.
>> If sex is social then instances of sex (as opposed to reproduction) means that many biological biological entities (and certainly all mammals) are social entities.
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>> Horse
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>> On 05/12/2010 14:27, MarshaV wrote:
>>> How about 'reproduction' is biological, and 'sex' is social?
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>>> On Dec 5, 2010, at 9:03 AM, John Carl wrote:
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>>>> Arlo, Mark,
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>>>> Sex is social. The sexual urge is biological, I'll grant you. Nocturnal
>>>> emission or masturbation is biological, I'll grant you. But sex takes two
>>>> and occurs through a complex of social negotiation. Even rape is a
>>>> sociopathic behavior rather than a merely biological urge. In fact, it's
>>>> pretty widely known that rape is due more to rage issues than mere
>>>> horniness.
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>>>> This is a recurring disagreement I have with most of MD. Mark in a
>>>> following post says the urge to freedom is biological. I disagree
>>>> completely, as I believe all emotions have social roots - the caring about
>>>> self in the relation to others. Biologically, our bodies would probably be
>>>> quite happy kept in a pod and fed all necessary nutrients.
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