[MD] Sex, Rape and Law in a MOQ

[Andre Broersen]

John to Arlo:

Sex is social.  The sexual urge is biological, I'll grant you.  Nocturnal
emission or masturbation is biological, I'll grant you.  But sex takes two and
occurs through a complex of social negotiation.

Arlo:
On the biological level, then, we have "sex", on the social level alongside the
"rape stigma" I mentioned we have a lot of other social patterns attempting to
guide and control and structure the path to this biological act.

If we consider "sadness", and make it a biological pattern, then wouldn't it be
something like "the flu"? Your body just "gets sad" when a particular imbalance
or virus or something infects your biological system.

Andre:
Spot on Arlo. To suggest that sex is social is to misunderstand biological values. You make a very important point when you say that (most) emotions have a physiological basis. It reminds me of what James said (and turned this thing inside out); you do not cry because you are sad, no, you are sad because you cry... you do not run because you emote fear, you are fearful because you run.

This does not apply to all instances of (social)emotive labeling. But the order in which responses happen is important...the value comes first then the labeling.

Boy oh boy, that some contributors to this discuss still have so many difficulties with this is incomprehensible to me.