[MD] Thus spoke Lila

John Carl ridgecoyote at gmail.com
Tue Dec 7 09:56:16 PST 2010


Not to argue for argument's sake, Marsh, but I think the best understanding
of Reality changes with every moment.


> Greetings:
>
> I still think the best understanding of REALITY is found in Lila's
> words(LILA, Chapter 14): "...I'm whatever your questions turn me into. You
> don't see that. It's your questions that make me who I am. If you think I'm
> an angel then that's what I am. If you think I'm a whore then that's what I
> am. I'm whatever you think.



Although, that is what Lila is trying to say here, so perhaps we're on the
same page after all.  However, an important point is that our understanding
of reality is a negotiation.  It's not contained in me, it's not defined by
you.  It's what we agree upon - the entanglement between.



> And if you change your mind about me then I change too. So whatever Richard
> tells you, it's true. There's no way he can lie about me."    -    Reality
> is whatever you think it is (your patterns), there's no way you can lie
> about it, and if you change your understanding of reality, then reality
> changes too.
>
>
However, I will argue with Bohm's formulation.  I don't think he makes very
good sense here.


>
> Here are something by David Bohm that says the same thing:
>
> "Reality is what we take to be true.  What we take to be true is what we
> believe.  What we believe is based upon our perceptions.  What we perceive
> depends upon what we look for.  What we look for depends on what we think.
>  What we think depends on what we perceive.  What we perceive determines
> what we believe.  What we believe determines what we take to be true.  What
> we take to be true is our reality."
>
>      (Mathieu Ricard & Trinh Xuan Thuan, 'The Quantum and the Lotus: A
> Journey to the Frontiers Where Science and Buddhism Meet',p.121)
>
>
I say rather that our perceptions are based upon what we believe about our
sensations.  What we perceive depends upon what we think.  What we take to
be real, depends on our truth.

Idealistically speaking,

John



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