[MD] Philosophy and Abstraction

[Dan Glover]

Hello everyone

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:33 AM, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd say they'd also articulated a certain stubbornly obtuse evasion of
> sincere philosophical discussion, Matt.
> Their "I" wasn't being too faithful and their non-language an expression of
> "not I" - as in, who wants to philosophize?
>
> "Not I"  being their answer.

Dan:

I think Matt is pointing to context,., and attempting to show you,
John, in a simple fashion, that not all reality can be reduced to
language. So, "it" is not language all the way down. But you must know
that, so I am not at all sure why you're on about it, other than to
irritate, maybe. If you really want to have a sincere philosophical
discussion, then I suggest being sincere. Who has time for nonsense?
Not I. I am quite sure others here will accomodate you though.

Dan

>
> John
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Matt Kundert
> <pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> Think about this way John: if you told someone that it was language
>> all the way down, and they looked down at their feet and said they
>> didn't see any language anywhere, they'd just articulated to you the
>> sensitivity to context Steve and Rorty desire, and how the notion of
>> "not language" still plays a role.
>>