[MD] Thus spoke Lila

[craigerb at comcast.net]

[Mark]
> MOQ seems to be expressed in these posts as SOM, that is the typical
way of conversing, as I
 > understand the concept. This occurs because
conversation is a subject talking to an object.

Talk involving a Subject & an Object is not necessarily SOM.  It is only SOM if it is assumed that
Subjects & Objects are fundamental, rather than Quality being so.

 [Mark]
> While in conversation
we use subjects and objects but MOQ rises from a deeper level which
does
 > not contain SOM, as well.

But note according to Pirsig the MoQ rises to subsume SOM.  ("Deeper level" is confusing here
because they are both 4th level.)
Craig