[MD] Galileo and the church

[ADRIE KINTZIGER]

Quote Mark.
and I already work for the government
about 5 months out of the year.

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A factoryworker here works about the first 6.5 months a year
for taxes only, 54% tax on salary.
On the restamount for the next period, there is an aftertax.

2010/12/12 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com>

> Hi Guys,
>
> I sent my daughter off to Duke University in the US last year.  Hate
> to tell you how much that is costing.  Quite a bit more than 11K
> Euros.  We are receiving some private funding, since the college has
> lots of tobacco money.  Didn't want federal funding because then we
> would be indentured to the Gov, and I already work for the government
> about 5 months out of the year.  Still, It is costing us more than 11K
> per year.  This is the American way.  Consider yourselves lucky over
> there.  Spoiled maybe?
>
> Mark
>
> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Horse <horse at darkstar.uk.net> wrote:
> > Hi Adrie
> >
> > The 11K Euros (9K Sterling) is the highest figure that can or will be
> > charged by the 'top' Universities and yes this is an annual fee. It is
> also
> > in addition to housing, food etc. So if you're at one of the Cambridge or
> > Oxford colleges, maybe Imperial College London or one of a number of
> other
> > Universities, you're yearly education is like y to be around 15-20K
> > Sterling.
> > So very few working class students (younger or mature) or even middle
> class
> > students will be able to afford this unless they get a bursary - which is
> > still unlikely to cover all their fees.
> >
> > The stupidity of this is that there used to be other institutions
> > (Polytechnics etc.) that provided degrees and higher education but have
> now
> > all been turned into Universities. The reason Polytechnics and the rest
> were
> > turned into Universities is because they were funded at a lower level -
> some
> > of the funding coming from industry. Once the Polytechnics became
> > Universities the government cut the funding to the original Universities
> (to
> > the same level as the Polytechnics) and then insisted that they charged
> fees
> > where no fees had existed before! Either at Polytechnics or Universities.
> >
> > Additionally, because of political interference in pre-University
> education
> > - i.e. schools - and the dumbing down of the education process, including
> > that at many Universities , kids now need to go to University in order to
> > achieve the same educational standard as they previously got at school.
> >
> > No wonder then, that they and many others are severely pissed off!
> >
> > Horse
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/12/2010 16:06, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Been watching these events,what surprised me the most is the amount
> >> of money they are speaking about, for students.
> >> They spoke of about 11.000 euro admissionfee, ...dunno, is this annual?
> >>
> >> I think this is totally out of correct proportion.
> >> How on earth are working class children going to pay for this?
> >>
> >> Greetzz, Adrie
> >>
> >
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