[MD] Thus spoke Lila

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Wed Dec 15 03:14:52 PST 2010


Mark, (Marsha)

On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:14:57 -0800, "118" <ununoctiums at gmail.com> said:
> Hi Marsha,
> 
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > I so agree.   You know it,  but not by words, and it's why I told Tim I
> > have been reconsidering 'spiritual' and 'faith' in terms of heart.
> >
> >
> > Marsha
> 
> [Mark]
> Hearts and minds is a good way to put the distinction between DQ and SQ.
> 
> >

[Tim]
hmmm, I have an 'analogy', and I think this is a time when even I, who
does not so much like the over-use of that word, should use it too.

real quick, first, 'hearts and minds' is a term, like 'faithe', for
which I am overcoming an aversion.  So, while I agree that it is a fine
term, now, I also think using it 'publicly' could lead to a lot of
confusion.  whatevs.  But, I, like John - and I saw that he addressed
this just today,  or probably now yesterday - see 'hearts' as being part
of the intellectual level.

Intelligence is a balance of the heart, (anything else?), and the mind
(coin flip to determine the order ... the cold and the hot; though I
don't know that that makes it a lukewarm!).  Perhaps I might suggest
that the romantic/classic is within the intellectual level (like SOM). 
DQ is still there, not quite comprehensible. Mystical. Spiritual.  I
have been using faithe as the verb for: me surviving that, in tact.

My analogy: you bring your I, everything that you might be able to
describe, or sense, up to the door of DQ; I will denote this half
pictorially here: '>'.  All this gets merged into a 'simple' choice.
With this choice I will it to be so: '+'.  This willful choice is,
somehow, empowered to be real amongst the other I's; and, in order for
all these 'I' not to ruin it in the meantime; and in order that they can
be preserved through the intertwining that is necessary; it is by
'faitheing' that I make it through DQ: '--'.  I guess this might be the
threshold of the door way, for the sake of the analogy.  On the edge of
the new room, another willful decision is required, take stock of the
repercussions of the willful choice to go through that doorway.  What do
you choose to observe?: '+'.  With this, then, you can update your
intelligence: '<'.  Of course 'update' happens in the uttter present of
DQ too.  And all this happens so dang fast.  Etc. And etc

Anyway, this is what the analogy looks like in a picture: 


           >+--+<


Tim
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