[MD] All the way down

Matt Kundert pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com
Fri Dec 17 12:13:05 PST 2010


Hi Jan-Anders,

Jan-Anders said:
My example was meant to show how quality can be defined as an 
event by using one of the basic elements of language. The concept 
of it.

What IT is. It as an event is defining itself as an event of two letters, 
in the right order, has a value when its used. The it event is realized. 
As quality is an event (a process with time included) it shouldn't be 
about reality but realization. A verb and not a noun.

Matt:
Yeah, sure, that's great.  "Events all the way down."  The idiom is a 
little further away then the language thing, but it's similar to the 
anti-Platonic points to be scored by what went by "Oxford Philosophy," 
or "ordinary language philosophy," whatever gains of which was 
codified as "speech act theory" (most notably by John Searle)--and 
there you can see it: language as an act, an event, verb, verbalizing.

And Marsha probably really appreciates the "it shouldn't be about 
reality but realization" sentiment.

Though, as Dave points out, the earlier formulation of "the Quality 
event" of ZMM does seem to be in some kind of conflict with the
conclusion of Lila.  I'm not sure how serious it is, though.

Matt
 		 	   		  


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