[MD] All the way down

118 ununoctiums at gmail.com
Fri Dec 17 22:18:15 PST 2010


Hi Matt,

I read yesterday in the Wall Street Journal that now that Google has
about 15 million books scanned in, we can really start to use math and
statistics to understand language in a much broader sense.  Perhaps
the drift of humanity can be better understood once we have all the
written publications from the last 2,500 years fully integrated, and
susceptible to interrogation through a variety of counting techniques.
 Won't be such a mystery after that.  It is often useful to get the
whole perspective rather than to get lost in the trees.

Cheers,
Mark

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Matt Kundert
<pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jan-Anders,
>
> Jan-Anders said:
> My example was meant to show how quality can be defined as an
> event by using one of the basic elements of language. The concept
> of it.
>
> What IT is. It as an event is defining itself as an event of two letters,
> in the right order, has a value when its used. The it event is realized.
> As quality is an event (a process with time included) it shouldn't be
> about reality but realization. A verb and not a noun.
>
> Matt:
> Yeah, sure, that's great.  "Events all the way down."  The idiom is a
> little further away then the language thing, but it's similar to the
> anti-Platonic points to be scored by what went by "Oxford Philosophy,"
> or "ordinary language philosophy," whatever gains of which was
> codified as "speech act theory" (most notably by John Searle)--and
> there you can see it: language as an act, an event, verb, verbalizing.
>
> And Marsha probably really appreciates the "it shouldn't be about
> reality but realization" sentiment.
>
> Though, as Dave points out, the earlier formulation of "the Quality
> event" of ZMM does seem to be in some kind of conflict with the
> conclusion of Lila.  I'm not sure how serious it is, though.
>
> Matt
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