[MD] All the way down

[John Carl]

Marsha,

Yes, I saw that and it did clarify for me - the importance of choice in the
matter.  Choice is key.  I'm reading East of Eden right now, and "thou
mayest" had a lightning bolt impact on me.  Choice is everything.  Even if
it is the kind of stuff that inspired logical positivism, it's the kind of
stuff I hold closest to my heart, always.

John

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:37 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

>
> Hi John,
>
> I think Wallace explains in the 2nd part that you will not be asked to stop
> your thoughts, but to become mindful of them, or be able to take a rest
> from them now and then.  Mindfulness is to be aware of what are thinking
> as a participator, not lost to thought where your thoughts are riding you.
> It's quite wonderful.  But not to worry, it is not so easy to make it a new
> habit.
> At least it hasn't been for me.  Even so, a few minutes here and there
> throughout the day is a treasure.
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 17, 2010, at 3:19 PM, John Carl wrote:
>
> > Good and interesting, Marsha.  I'm a big fan, as you know.  But I
> wonder...
> > what if I like thinking thoughts?  What if I enjoy it?
> >
> > He compared being trapped in our thoughts like an "east german prison
> camp"
> > and I thought of that foreign movie that got the academy award some years
> > back, Life is Beautiful.  A  Jewish man and his son are put in a
> > concentration camp by Nazis and the man tells his son that the whole
> thing
> > is an elaborate game and he has to play it well in order to win the prize
> (a
> > real tank) and sure enough, it works in the end.  The boy plays the game
> so
> > well, that  he wins a tank.  Even though the game is made up, and the
> world
> > we inhabit is often destructive and evil, when the game is played with
> > intention and sincerity, we win.
> >
> > And Matt, I think I grasp now what you say troubles you about "all the
> way
> > down".  So let me modify it.  "It" may not be language ALL the way down,
> but
> > it's language as far down as I can see, and language as far down as I
> need
> > to go.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:48 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Greetings<
> >>
> >> B. Alan Wallace is a philosopher of science, and his humorously named
> >> Wallace Syndrome talks of language 'all the way down.'  It's only ten
> >> minutes and you might find it interesting.
> >>
> >>
> >> Marsha
> >>
>
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