[MD] Intellectual Level

[MarshaV]

On Dec 29, 2010, at 7:57 PM, ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote:

> [Marsha previously]
> In my definition of the Intellectual Level, grammar, mathematics and logic 
> represent the intellectual rules for manipulating reified objects of analysis.  
> 
> [Arlo responded]
> All of which have nothing to do with "SOM", except those patterns that derive
> from a particular fundamental division of the world (such as idealism, etc.)
> 
> [Marsha again]
> Pirsig uses the term ‘subject-object metaphysics’ (SOM) for any metaphysics
> (explicitly or implicitly) that perceives reality as either mind and/or matter
> such as idealism, materialism, and dualism."  (MoQ Textbook)  
> 
> [Arlo]
> Right. And it has nothing to do with "grammar, mathematics and logic", it has
> to do with "any metaphysicas that perceives reality as either mind and/or
> matter, such as idealism, materialism, and dualism."
> 
> You can repeat your quote all you want, it proves my point, and that Bo was
> wrong. Thanks.
> 
> "A subject-object metaphysics is in fact a metaphysics in which the first
> division of Quality - the first slice of undivided experience  is into
> subjects and objects." (LILA)
> 
> Precisely.


Marsha:
Language, with it grammatical rules, has most certainly evolved to reflect 
humanities subject-object metaphysical underpinning.  


 
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