[MD] Intellectual Level
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ununoctiums at gmail.com
Fri Dec 31 10:28:33 PST 2010
Hi Platt,
Intellect can avoid a process of infinite regress by switching Quality
and Truth. Regress comes from attempting to uncover an ultimate
source. This is a search for Truth. If one accepts that such a thing
does not exist, then any building is based on Quality. This is
typical of Eastern education. A child does not ask: "Where do we come
from?" because this would make no sense. He asks: "How do we grow?".
We are building outward, not looking inward. This is the Quality
approach. Quality is a state of creativity, not of discovery; a
process of exploration, not of arrival.
There are a variety of ways to break Quality up, all of which are
creative. It is working outward, not inward. There is no paradox in
creating a house, only one in finding what it is truly made of.
Quality creates Truth, but hold on to some firm ground before you go
there, it is a wild ride.
Cheers,
Mark
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Platt Holden <plattholden at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well Ian, if you find a way intellect can avoid paradox or infinite regress,
> I hope you will share your discovery. (I don't think intellect includes
> intuitive or other nonconceptual experiences.)
>
> Platt
>
> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Ian Glendinning <ian.glendinning at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>
>> No Platt, I'm a cup half full person.
>>
>> It demonstrates the completeness of intellect (if allowed to address
>> its own cracks) rather than limiting it.
>> They are a freedom of intellect, a room for manouevre, rather than a
>> limitation. (if you choose to look at it that way.)
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Platt Holden <plattholden at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Ian,
>> >
>> > Excellent point. Demonstrates limits of intellect and frees one to seek
>> > truth between the cracks of static patterns. Or, as Ayn Rand counseled,
>> > "Check you premises."
>> >
>> > Platt
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Ian Glendinning
>> > <ian.glendinning at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Platt & Craig, both criticising contradiction ... fail to see its
>> quality.
>> >>
>> >> Intellect defining intellect = good news for the enlightenment of
>> >> intellect (clue, a process).
>> >> Intuititive and invisible = good.
>> >>
>> >> Unless you're looking for disagreement, of course.
>> >> Ian
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:03 PM, <craigerb at comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> > [Platt]
>> >> >> The SOM premise is self-evident and thus invisible to the
>> >> >> intellectual level of patterns.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't think this is possible. "Self-evident" means "easily seen"
>> >> > & "invisible" means "cannot be seen". They are contradictory.
>> >> > Craig
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