[MD] Intellectual Level

Fri Dec 31 11:26:07 PST 2010

Well Ian, if you find a way intellect can avoid paradox or infinite regress,
I hope you will share your discovery. (I don't think intellect includes
intuitive or other nonconceptual experiences.)

Platt.
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Interesting line, Platt,...only offering two possible pre-implicated limping
answers
on a question that is constructed on the postulate that all paradoxes are
parenting the same properties,all paradoxes are only bad entry's,and will
always have the look and feel to persist,decay , or lead to a path of decay.

In reflection on the last sentence, "I don't think intellect
includes....etc", the
solid answer on it is ultimately unimportant.

Only the look and feel counts, the question is only phrased like this,to
step above
Pirsig himself in an attempt to team up with the non-present Bo again,and
pay attention to this, the question is only placed an phrased like this to
pull hairs
out of our asses/arses?.

BTW, Platt, speaking in Bo's name, or representing him in a disguised
manner,
to give it the look and feel as if you like to help him out on this forum,
with his drivel,..honestly in my humble opinion, only will damage Bo.

Bo is not completely responsible for all the drivel he generated, really,
the flock,
the prankers, the jokers behind him, whispering in his msn-ear,handing over
pre-scripted material in the background,...are more to be held responsible
for the hairballs he presented.

It is an impossibility, Platt, to believe that he did it all on his own
merits.

I think Platt,honestly,that there is an enormeous field out here/there, in
regard of the material, the books, that needs to be unveiled, discovered,
and i think Bo
can and should play a role in this development.

I will give you a hint, that is well meant to use,(by Bo) , not by you.

The patterns of value.(the value's themselves)
Nobody filled in the boundarys,the aspects,properties.At least not in a
way that allows evolution or recognition, Pirsig himself left open this
field for most part.
Mc Watt did not fill it in,Nobody did, it is still 'terra incognita', if
Bodvar takes this as a new entry , a new chance, he can freely experiment
with it, do the research
on this field, without contradicting Pirsig,Mc Watt, the moq or Mr Buchanan
all the time.

So,imho, Bo, the good Bo has the right to be here,imho he did not have to
go.
But to re-introduce the endless loop of solaqi, or related old shit....no.

DID he go because doing Philosophology was made impossible for him , here?
No, Bo left because Bo likes to step into the orchestra to play the
altviolin,play it even above the dirigent, without understanding a chord.
Bo left , not because he became insane, but he lost control on what he was
handling.

Bo likes us to believe him when he tells us that he is capable of handling
300 mails a day,and still can stay consistent on all different threads on
this and other fora.

The prankers in the background, the jokers created most of the bad Bo-part.

Truly, platt, if you are his friend, you should not feed his misconceptions
to a level that will explode in Bo's face again.

2010/12/31 Platt Holden <plattholden at gmail.com>

> Well Ian, if you find a way intellect can avoid paradox or infinite
> regress,
> I hope you will share your discovery. (I don't think intellect includes
> intuitive or other nonconceptual experiences.)
>
> Platt
>
> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Ian Glendinning <
> ian.glendinning at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > No Platt, I'm a cup half full person.
> >
> > It demonstrates the completeness of intellect (if allowed to address
> > its own cracks) rather than limiting it.
> > They are a freedom of intellect, a room for manouevre, rather than a
> > limitation. (if you choose to look at it that way.)
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Platt Holden <plattholden at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Ian,
> > >
> > > Excellent point. Demonstrates limits of intellect and frees one to seek
> > > truth between the cracks of static patterns. Or, as Ayn Rand counseled,
> > > "Check you premises."
> > >
> > > Platt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Ian Glendinning
> > > <ian.glendinning at gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> Platt & Craig, both criticising contradiction ... fail to see its
> > quality.
> > >>
> > >> Intellect defining intellect = good news for the enlightenment of
> > >> intellect (clue, a process).
> > >> Intuititive and invisible = good.
> > >>
> > >> Unless you're looking for disagreement, of course.
> > >> Ian
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:03 PM,  <craigerb at comcast.net> wrote:
> > >> > [Platt]
> > >> >> The SOM premise is self-evident and thus invisible to the
> > >> >> intellectual level of patterns.
> > >> >
> > >> > I don't think this is possible. "Self-evident" means "easily seen"
> > >> > & "invisible" means "cannot be seen". They are contradictory.
> > >> > Craig
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