[MD] Intellectual Level

rapsncows at fastmail.fm rapsncows at fastmail.fm
Fri Dec 31 22:32:53 PST 2010


Horse,
Marsha,
(Ham,
John,
Mark,)

Horse,
I'll make sure to give the short version here.  I haven't been here very
long, but more, I don't know what kind of involvement I might keep. 
First, thanks for hosting this, Horse!  Thanks for your efforts.

You know, better than I do (I'm sure), that I fit in amongst the
'misfits' here.  Almost exclusively in fact.  I have hardly taken part
in a conversation with other than Mark, Marsha, Ham, and John (there
have been noteworthy exceptions of course).  Don't take it lightly that
your forum has provided us such a high quality experience.  If you are
running low on some psychic reserve that we might supply I'm sure none
of us will hesitate to say how much we have appreciated the opportunity
you have afforded us (Mark, Marsha, Ham, John, let me know if I have
done you an injustice here).  ANyway, the point is that I (and if I can
presume so much about the other mistfits I know) do find high quality
discussion here.  IF there were to be a problem with someone I had never
talked with, I would just advise you that in this corner it seems fine,
so...  if there was something I could do to help over there, cool, let
me know; but if what I was talking about over here with the other
misfits was inherently a problem... well, that would be a shame.  Seems
...  well, I don't want to tell you your job, or how to run your forum,
do as you like, but I think that Mark, Marsha, Ham, John and I will all
of us agree: we find high quality here, thanks, Horse; ...

Well, I really should only speak for myself: I see no need for you to
waste your time and energy taking any action against Marsh.  As
frustrated as you, and others, might be, such frustration is in itself
proof of her quality.  People don't get worked up for nothing.  People
find quality in running into the wall that is Marsha; we learn from it. 
And, though we walk away frustrated, we come back because we find
quality there.  Its just that it is frustrating.  But Horse, please, if
'frustrating' is a problem (boot Ham out!), advise those who are so
frustrated to take a breather.  I hope you are laughing, Ham.  But
Horse, just like you can do as you like, because it is your forum... in
conversation everyone here can do as he likes; and people choose to
converse with Marsha, willingly.  And even if someone came here, posted
all sorts of garbage, got no responses, and kept going unphased, isn't
his effort proof enough that he finds some quality sufficient to make
you at least consider leaving him be?

Anyway, Horse, it is your forum, what kind of forum do you want?  I
thank you for the opportunity I have had.  Thank you, sincerely.  I
don't know how much I will be involved going forward.  But, for me, this
forum was what it was for the 'mistfits'.  IF you didn't have them I
think this forum would not have done anything for me - would I have been
ignored from the start, until I left because there was nothing here for
me?  I guess I'm just wondering what it is you see that needs dealing
with.  I see no problem with Marsha's behavior here.  In fact, I think
she takes more than her fair share of karmic garbage.  If her wall is
too ...  why can't it be tolerated (at least)?

I get frustrated with Marsha too sometimes, but frustration is just
frustration, right?  The point is the Quality, right?  If you start
sacrificing quality to ease mere frustration, where is that gonna lead? 
Which forum do you want?

sincerely,
Tim


On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 01:16:58 +0000, "Horse" <horse at darkstar.uk.net>
said:
> OK Platt - you've decided to play the wind up game have you.
> Fine.
>  From the post that I previously mentioned and which you seem to have 
> ignored yet again:
> 
> "If you think it's amusing or clever to take the piss out of me,
> criticize me, accuse me of censorship or generally make unpleasant,
> derogatory or insulting remarks for doing my best to do my job (and
> do it properly and well) as administrator of this list then you will
> discover that you won't be participating in MD discussions any longer.
> Similarly, if you want to play stupid word games with me over one of
> my decisions or try and provoke or antagonise me for doing my job as
> administrator you'll be removed without any warning whatsoever."
> 
> Since I wrote the above I have given you and Marsha chance after chance.
> That stops now. You've both had your last chance.
> 
> Horse
> 
> 
> 
> On 01/01/2011 00:12, Platt Holden wrote:
> > Horse,
> >
> > Sounds like a threat. Don't in the opinion of the list master be insulting
> > or derogatory or you'll be banned. But if the list master he is insulting or
> > derogatory that's OK.
> >
> > Is that right?
> >
> > Platt
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Horse<horse at darkstar.uk.net>  wrote:
> >
> >> Please do Platt. Take your time to laugh as much as you want.
> >> And when you stop laughing, just remember who runs this list.
> >>
> >> Oh, and you seem to have forgotten some of the things I said in my post to
> >> Bo et. al. back in August. Here's the link
> >>
> >>
> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/2010-August/052080.html
> >>
> >> and as per usual you and Marsha have continued to ignore all of my requests
> >> both then and subsequently.
> >>
> >> So have a good laugh Platt.
> >> Then start paying attention if you want to carry on contributing to MD.
> >>
> >> Horse
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 31/12/2010 23:14, Platt Holden wrote:
> >>
> >>> Crap? Bullshit? Red herrings? Nonsense? New song? And you find Marsha's
> >>> rhetoric lacking? Pardon me while I laugh.
> >>>
> >>> Platt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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