[MD] The Mythos-Logos issue.

[plattholden at gmail.com]

On 1 Jul 2010 at 21:03, Horse wrote:

> OK - if you refuse to understand, fair enough.
> There are none so blind as those who will not see.

[Platt]
You are so right. The meaning of censorship is crystal clear. 



> 
> On 01/07/2010 20:43, Platt Holden wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Horse" <horse at darkstar.uk.net>
> > To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MD] The Mythos-Logos issue.
> >
> >
> > Hi Platt
> >
> > You're quite wrong. There is no censorship going on here or enforcement
> > of purity of thought or whatever other rhetorical mangling you care to
> > mention.
> >
> > Hi Horse,
> > Definitions from Random House Webster's College Dictionary:
> >
> > censor, n. 1. an official who examines literature, television 
> > programs, etc., for the purpose of suppressing or deleting parts 
> > deemed objectionable on moral, political, military, or other grounds.
> >
> > censorship, n. 1. the act or practice of censoring.
> >
> > Rhetorical mangling? Not. You can run but you cannot hide from your 
> > threat to censor Bo.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Platt.
> > .
> >
> >
> > On 01/07/2010 14:43, plattholden at gmail.com wrote:
> >> Hi Horse,
> >>
> >> Oh, oh. The spectre of censorship arises. Now the arbiters of "the 
> >> truth" threaten. Does your warning to sentence Bo to Siberia also 
> >> apply to me, Mary, Marsha and others who are at least willing to 
> >> entertain the idea that the Pirsig may be wrong?
> >>
> >
> > I see - you're comparing me to the Russian Communists by the above
> > comments. I hope Mary is reading this and will admonish you in the same
> > way that she admonished me. Somehow I doubt it.
> > What I have said to Bo applies to all with regard to the SOL issue but
> > as it is Bo's baby, it was addressed to him.
> > I have no objections to you or anyone else being willing to say that you
> > believe Pirsig is wrong - I have also disagreed with some of what Pirsig
> > has said. What I have stated that I object to is Bo's continual and
> > deceitful attempts to say that Pirsig is the originator of the SOL
> > (untrue) and that Pirsig supports the the idea that SOM (S/O etc.) =
> > Intellectual level (also untrue), along with other false statements
> > regarding Pirsig's support for the SOL.
> >
> >> Enforcement of purity of thought smacks of the totalitarian mind.
> >
> > It does, you're right, and for this reason I would never do such a thing
> > as you know only too well.
> >
> >> And Pirsig would be the last person in the world to say you must 
> >> agree with him or else
> >> you are persona non grata.
> >>
> >
> > And Bo should be the first person to say that Pirsig has stated that he
> > doesn't agree with Bo's SOL interpretation of the MoQ. Pirsig has said
> > this and if Bo continues to ignore what Pirsig has said and say the
> > opposite then he's a liar. He's also being maliciously deceitful and
> > this is why I am asking him to cease his lies and deceptions.
> >
> >> I urge you to reconsider your position.
> >
> > There is no need to reconsider my position - my position is as clear as
> > Pirsigs position regarding the SOL. Bo must stop the deception and
> > distortion. It's wrong and to continue is similarly wrong.
> >
> >
> >> No doubt your motive is well intentioned,
> >
> > You know perfectly well that it is Platt and I'm also sure that you know
> > what I'm saying makes sense and is the right thing to do.
> > By all means support Bo's idea that SOM (S/O etc.) = Intellectual level
> > - just stop saying that this is Pirsigs position or that he is the
> > originator of the SOL or similar such nonsense. Is that asking too much?
> >
> >> but please consider that censorship violates the "moral right of 
> >> intellect to be free of social control" -- a basic tenet of the MOQ.
> >>
> >
> > Another basic tenet of the MoQ is that lies, dishonesty and deliberate
> > deception to achieve ones intellectual ends is a violation of the good.
> > Bo is guilty of this and needs to re-evaluate his position.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > Horse
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> 
> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
> - Frank Zappa
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