[MD] Intellectual honesty

[Dan Glover]

Hello everyone

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Steven Peterson
<peterson.steve at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi dmb, Dan, Horse
>
>
>> Dan said to John:
>> I never thought Bo should be banned...
>
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>> dmb says:
>> Right. Exactly.
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> Steve:
> If those supporting Horse's action don't think Bo ought to be banned
> then I am as confused as Matt is about what administrative action we
> are talking about here. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah...I agree that Bo is
> all these flavors of horrible (and probably also a pretty good guy),
> but what specific administrative action are we talking about? Is it...

Dan:
I thought Horse made that clear. Didn't he? Maybe you want to go back
and re-read his post.

>
> 1) a new forum rule where anyone claiming that SOL is Pirsig's idea
> risks being banned?
> 2) a administrative request that Bo shut the hell up about SOL for a while?
> 3) a specific threat leveled at Bo that he will be banned if he in
> particular continues to say that SOL was Pirsig's idea?
> 4) something else, like Bo will be banned if he continues to try to
> woo every newbie that comes along by flattering them and telling them
> about how they have blessedly managed to stumble upon the Great
> Insight?
>
> None of us think that Bo's SOL thesis is worth a darn and wish he
> would stop harping on it, but what action are you defending here? I
> thought it was 1) at first, but maybe it is 2) since you don't think
> Bo ought to be banned. I thought Horse had done 1) in which case forum
> rules are now:
>
> #1 You must have read Pirsig's 2 books
> #2 You may not say that SOL was Pirsig's idea
>
> (Are there other rules to add to this list?) But perhaps Horse only
> intended 2). I normally delete any posts addressed to or from Bo, so
> I'm not at all clear about what has transpired. Is there a new forum
> rule or not?

Dan:
Since you addressed this email to me, I'll answer you as best I can.
Steve, aren't you a teacher? I thought you said that somewhere. Do you
tolerate intellectual dishonesty in your classroom? I mean, what if a
student goes online and downloads papers to turn in rather than
putting in the work themselves? And you find out. Do you give them an
"A" because it is a quality paper? Or do you confront them about
taking someone else's work and claiming it for their own?

There are already rules against that, right? I'm not at all sure you
understand what Horse is saying. Please. Re-read his post.

Dan