[MD] Intellectual honesty

[Mary]

I'm in agreement with Glove.  The rules of the forum should be clearly
posted.  If these are the rules, they should be prominently displayed on the
home page to avoid inadvertent transgressions.

[Glove]
in which case forum 
> rules are now:
>
> #1 You must have read Pirsig's 2 books
> #2 You may not say that SOL was Pirsig's idea
>

In clarity,
Mary


On Behalf Of Dan Glover
> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:08 PM
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Subject: Re: [MD] Intellectual honesty
> 
> Hello everyone
> 
> On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Steven Peterson
> <peterson.steve at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi dmb, Dan, Horse
> >
> >
> >> Dan said to John:
> >> I never thought Bo should be banned...
> >
> >
> >> dmb says:
> >> Right. Exactly.
> >
> >
> > Steve:
> > If those supporting Horse's action don't think Bo ought to be banned
> > then I am as confused as Matt is about what administrative action we
> > are talking about here. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah...I agree that Bo is
> > all these flavors of horrible (and probably also a pretty good guy),
> > but what specific administrative action are we talking about? Is
> it...
> 
> Dan:
> I thought Horse made that clear. Didn't he? Maybe you want to go back
> and re-read his post.
> 
> >
> > 1) a new forum rule where anyone claiming that SOL is Pirsig's idea
> > risks being banned?
> > 2) a administrative request that Bo shut the hell up about SOL for a
> while?
> > 3) a specific threat leveled at Bo that he will be banned if he in
> > particular continues to say that SOL was Pirsig's idea?
> > 4) something else, like Bo will be banned if he continues to try to
> > woo every newbie that comes along by flattering them and telling them
> > about how they have blessedly managed to stumble upon the Great
> > Insight?
> >
> > None of us think that Bo's SOL thesis is worth a darn and wish he
> > would stop harping on it, but what action are you defending here? I
> > thought it was 1) at first, but maybe it is 2) since you don't think
> > Bo ought to be banned. I thought Horse had done 1) in which case
> forum
> > rules are now:
> >
> > #1 You must have read Pirsig's 2 books
> > #2 You may not say that SOL was Pirsig's idea
> >
> > (Are there other rules to add to this list?) But perhaps Horse only
> > intended 2). I normally delete any posts addressed to or from Bo, so
> > I'm not at all clear about what has transpired. Is there a new forum
> > rule or not?
> 
> Dan:
> Since you addressed this email to me, I'll answer you as best I can.
> Steve, aren't you a teacher? I thought you said that somewhere. Do you
> tolerate intellectual dishonesty in your classroom? I mean, what if a
> student goes online and downloads papers to turn in rather than
> putting in the work themselves? And you find out. Do you give them an
> "A" because it is a quality paper? Or do you confront them about
> taking someone else's work and claiming it for their own?
> 
> There are already rules against that, right? I'm not at all sure you
> understand what Horse is saying. Please. Re-read his post.
> 
> Dan
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