[MD] Intellectual honesty

[Dan Glover]

Hello everyone

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Mary <marysonthego at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm in agreement with Glove.  The rules of the forum should be clearly
> posted.  If these are the rules, they should be prominently displayed on the
> home page to avoid inadvertent transgressions.
>
> [Glove]
> in which case forum
>> rules are now:
>>
>> #1 You must have read Pirsig's 2 books
>> #2 You may not say that SOL was Pirsig's idea
>>
>
> In clarity,
> Mary

Hi Mary

Glove was an old name I used back in the Lila Squad days. You are of
course free to use it. But I did not say what you say here. I think it
was Horse. I neither have nor want anything to do with enforcing the
rules of this forum.

Thank you for the agreement, though.

Dan




>
>
> On Behalf Of Dan Glover
>> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:08 PM
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Subject: Re: [MD] Intellectual honesty
>>
>> Hello everyone
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Steven Peterson
>> <peterson.steve at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi dmb, Dan, Horse
>> >
>> >
>> >> Dan said to John:
>> >> I never thought Bo should be banned...
>> >
>> >
>> >> dmb says:
>> >> Right. Exactly.
>> >
>> >
>> > Steve:
>> > If those supporting Horse's action don't think Bo ought to be banned
>> > then I am as confused as Matt is about what administrative action we
>> > are talking about here. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah...I agree that Bo is
>> > all these flavors of horrible (and probably also a pretty good guy),
>> > but what specific administrative action are we talking about? Is
>> it...
>>
>> Dan:
>> I thought Horse made that clear. Didn't he? Maybe you want to go back
>> and re-read his post.
>>
>> >
>> > 1) a new forum rule where anyone claiming that SOL is Pirsig's idea
>> > risks being banned?
>> > 2) a administrative request that Bo shut the hell up about SOL for a
>> while?
>> > 3) a specific threat leveled at Bo that he will be banned if he in
>> > particular continues to say that SOL was Pirsig's idea?
>> > 4) something else, like Bo will be banned if he continues to try to
>> > woo every newbie that comes along by flattering them and telling them
>> > about how they have blessedly managed to stumble upon the Great
>> > Insight?
>> >
>> > None of us think that Bo's SOL thesis is worth a darn and wish he
>> > would stop harping on it, but what action are you defending here? I
>> > thought it was 1) at first, but maybe it is 2) since you don't think
>> > Bo ought to be banned. I thought Horse had done 1) in which case
>> forum
>> > rules are now:
>> >
>> > #1 You must have read Pirsig's 2 books
>> > #2 You may not say that SOL was Pirsig's idea
>> >
>> > (Are there other rules to add to this list?) But perhaps Horse only
>> > intended 2). I normally delete any posts addressed to or from Bo, so
>> > I'm not at all clear about what has transpired. Is there a new forum
>> > rule or not?
>>
>> Dan:
>> Since you addressed this email to me, I'll answer you as best I can.
>> Steve, aren't you a teacher? I thought you said that somewhere. Do you
>> tolerate intellectual dishonesty in your classroom? I mean, what if a
>> student goes online and downloads papers to turn in rather than
>> putting in the work themselves? And you find out. Do you give them an
>> "A" because it is a quality paper? Or do you confront them about
>> taking someone else's work and claiming it for their own?
>>
>> There are already rules against that, right? I'm not at all sure you
>> understand what Horse is saying. Please. Re-read his post.
>>
>> Dan
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