[MD] Decision

[Andy Skelton]

John to Andy:
>> Consider that social interaction is communication from a self to an
>> other, i.e. manipulation of symbols between subjects and objects.
>> Otherness is created at level 3, not level 4.
>
> That there is a key point.  However, I see the creation of symbolic
> representation of otherness as a 3rd level phenomena and the manipulation of
> those symbols the defining characteristic of the 4th.

Your concept of manipulating symbols is fine and well placed. I agree
that static intellectual patterns require subjects and objects. But it
is not what creates subjects and objects. By their creation a being
evolves from 2 to 3. That is the boundary between [12] and [34].

Review this diagram: http://moq.org/forum/Pirsig/emm.html#page13

Static intellectual patterns, the ones we think with, are one thing.
DQ is a whole other thing. You can't write a single word about it, nor
even think a thought about it, and be correct.

Andy