[MD] The morality of trolling a list

[Ian Glendinning]

True of every word Marsha (see linguisitc games in the "Decision" thread).

Hopefully you will have noticed that I never use words as hard
definitions, to allow that Intellectual / DQ freedom from the
SOMist-Intellectual cage. I positively encourage fuzzy, dynamic,
pseudo-cyclic boundaries with a bit of slack .... gimme a break.

Ian

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:34 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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> Ian,
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> Troll?  Another static definition?  The intellect cannot help but trap things into
> a cage.
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> Marsha
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> On Jul 14, 2010, at 3:26 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
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>> There is no doubt Andy that trolls have their "dynamic value", but
>> that is not a license that says they are therefore untouchable when it
>> come to moderation.
>>
>> All things in moderation, including moderation (and trolling).
>>
>> This list even has the odd excluded troll that does occasionally piss
>> in from the outside ... all part of the rich pageant.
>>
>> (PS I've inhabited many a list, even moderated a couple in my time.
>> Flame wars ain't what they used to be.)
>>
>> (PS - in the current situation Bo is not a troll, lest anyone be confused.)
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Magnus Berg <McMagnus at home.se> wrote:
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> I don't think the majority of people on this list know what you mean by a
>>> troll. I can probably limit it to you, me and Horse, but there are surely
>>> some others. So, before anyone can reply properly, here's an extract from
>>> wikipedia.
>>>
>>> "In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous,
>>> or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion
>>> forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users
>>> into a desired emotional  response  or of otherwise disrupting normal
>>> on-topic discussion."
>>>
>>>        Magnus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2010-07-14 05:55, Andy Skelton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> John to Andy:
>>>>>
>>>>> So Andy, how many lists have you joined?
>>>>
>>>> Not many, a few more than you have.
>>>>
>>>>>> Given that the effect of trolling on a list is unknown at the outset,
>>>>>> how should one evaluate the opportunity to troll a list? How should a
>>>>>> moderator evaluate list members?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just like anybody, I guess.  Read what they have to say.  Is it good?  Do
>>>>> we
>>>>> need to ask anyone else how we know this?
>>>>
>>>> Bam. Peanut butter and jam. It's all about the quality event.
>>>>
>>>> The Decision thread looked to me like a moderator was struggling a DQ
>>>> evaluation (that it was moral to kick Bo) but he wanted to justify
>>>> statically in the intellectual level which rapid devolved into a
>>>> social morass. Or something. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Is Bo a troll?
>>>>
>>>> Andy
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