[MD] The morality of trolling a list

[MarshaV]

Ian,

Sure, I should have addressed it to All, but thought you could 
take it.  My mistake.  

Marsha







On Jul 14, 2010, at 4:03 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:

> True of every word Marsha (see linguisitc games in the "Decision" thread).
> 
> Hopefully you will have noticed that I never use words as hard
> definitions, to allow that Intellectual / DQ freedom from the
> SOMist-Intellectual cage. I positively encourage fuzzy, dynamic,
> pseudo-cyclic boundaries with a bit of slack .... gimme a break.
> 
> Ian
> 
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:34 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Ian,
>> 
>> Troll?  Another static definition?  The intellect cannot help but trap things into
>> a cage.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 14, 2010, at 3:26 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>> 
>>> There is no doubt Andy that trolls have their "dynamic value", but
>>> that is not a license that says they are therefore untouchable when it
>>> come to moderation.
>>> 
>>> All things in moderation, including moderation (and trolling).
>>> 
>>> This list even has the odd excluded troll that does occasionally piss
>>> in from the outside ... all part of the rich pageant.
>>> 
>>> (PS I've inhabited many a list, even moderated a couple in my time.
>>> Flame wars ain't what they used to be.)
>>> 
>>> (PS - in the current situation Bo is not a troll, lest anyone be confused.)
>>> 
>>> Ian
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Magnus Berg <McMagnus at home.se> wrote:
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think the majority of people on this list know what you mean by a
>>>> troll. I can probably limit it to you, me and Horse, but there are surely
>>>> some others. So, before anyone can reply properly, here's an extract from
>>>> wikipedia.
>>>> 
>>>> "In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous,
>>>> or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion
>>>> forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users
>>>> into a desired emotional  response  or of otherwise disrupting normal
>>>> on-topic discussion."
>>>> 
>>>>        Magnus
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2010-07-14 05:55, Andy Skelton wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> John to Andy:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So Andy, how many lists have you joined?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not many, a few more than you have.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Given that the effect of trolling on a list is unknown at the outset,
>>>>>>> how should one evaluate the opportunity to troll a list? How should a
>>>>>>> moderator evaluate list members?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just like anybody, I guess.  Read what they have to say.  Is it good?  Do
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> need to ask anyone else how we know this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bam. Peanut butter and jam. It's all about the quality event.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Decision thread looked to me like a moderator was struggling a DQ
>>>>> evaluation (that it was moral to kick Bo) but he wanted to justify
>>>>> statically in the intellectual level which rapid devolved into a
>>>>> social morass. Or something. :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is Bo a troll?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andy
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