[MD] The morality of trolling a list

[Ian Glendinning]

Nice one Marsha :-)
Ian

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:09 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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> Ian,
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> Sure, I should have addressed it to All, but thought you could
> take it.  My mistake.
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> Marsha
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> On Jul 14, 2010, at 4:03 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
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>> True of every word Marsha (see linguisitc games in the "Decision" thread).
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>> Hopefully you will have noticed that I never use words as hard
>> definitions, to allow that Intellectual / DQ freedom from the
>> SOMist-Intellectual cage. I positively encourage fuzzy, dynamic,
>> pseudo-cyclic boundaries with a bit of slack .... gimme a break.
>>
>> Ian
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>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:34 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>> Ian,
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>>> Troll?  Another static definition?  The intellect cannot help but trap things into
>>> a cage.
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>>> Marsha
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>>> On Jul 14, 2010, at 3:26 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
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>>>> There is no doubt Andy that trolls have their "dynamic value", but
>>>> that is not a license that says they are therefore untouchable when it
>>>> come to moderation.
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>>>> All things in moderation, including moderation (and trolling).
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>>>> This list even has the odd excluded troll that does occasionally piss
>>>> in from the outside ... all part of the rich pageant.
>>>>
>>>> (PS I've inhabited many a list, even moderated a couple in my time.
>>>> Flame wars ain't what they used to be.)
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>>>> (PS - in the current situation Bo is not a troll, lest anyone be confused.)
>>>>
>>>> Ian
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>>>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Magnus Berg <McMagnus at home.se> wrote:
>>>>> Andy
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>>>>> I don't think the majority of people on this list know what you mean by a
>>>>> troll. I can probably limit it to you, me and Horse, but there are surely
>>>>> some others. So, before anyone can reply properly, here's an extract from
>>>>> wikipedia.
>>>>>
>>>>> "In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous,
>>>>> or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion
>>>>> forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users
>>>>> into a desired emotional  response  or of otherwise disrupting normal
>>>>> on-topic discussion."
>>>>>
>>>>>        Magnus
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>>>>> On 2010-07-14 05:55, Andy Skelton wrote:
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>>>>>> John to Andy:
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>>>>>>> So Andy, how many lists have you joined?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not many, a few more than you have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Given that the effect of trolling on a list is unknown at the outset,
>>>>>>>> how should one evaluate the opportunity to troll a list? How should a
>>>>>>>> moderator evaluate list members?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just like anybody, I guess.  Read what they have to say.  Is it good?  Do
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> need to ask anyone else how we know this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bam. Peanut butter and jam. It's all about the quality event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Decision thread looked to me like a moderator was struggling a DQ
>>>>>> evaluation (that it was moral to kick Bo) but he wanted to justify
>>>>>> statically in the intellectual level which rapid devolved into a
>>>>>> social morass. Or something. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is Bo a troll?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy
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