[MD] Valuing Bodvar's SIM (BSIM)

[Arlo Bensinger]

[Bo]
... but nowhere on this earth - can't speak of cultures extinct - had 
the intellectual level been reached in Mesopotamian times... 
Intellect in the Western
Culture arrived with what we - moqists - know as SOM in Greece...

[Arlo]
Would you say the mathematics of the Babylonians and Egyptians were 
"social patterns"? Do you think modern mathematics is a "social 
pattern"? Can you point to the differentiating features of these 
mathematics that would indicate one being "social" and the other 
being "intellectual"? Also, there is evidence that several ancient 
(pre-Greek) cultures were able to mathematically and astronomically 
predict and describe precession. Would you say these precessional 
calculations and modellings were "social patterns"?

Lastly, if "intellect" didn't arrive until "SOM", do you mean 
actually "arrive" or do you mean "dominate"? If there was no 
intellect prior to the Greeks, and intellect appears with/as SOM, 
that explain your earlier comment that "SOM is SOL run amok" (my 
paraphrase). Shouldn't SOL, in your formulation, have predated the 
"amokness" of SOM?