[MD] the MoRaT
Ian Glendinning
ian.glendinning at gmail.com
Mon Jul 19 07:31:00 PDT 2010
Think maybe you've made your point Ron ?
;-)
Ian
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:03 PM, X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> The most damning evidence of all
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> After Lila rapes Phaedrus, he "see's the light"
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> "This was the first time he'd been passive like this.
> Before it had been his idea, his aggression, his carnal
> desires. Now this passivity seemed to open something up.
> What he seemed to have seen was that maybe 'he' hadn't
> had anything to do with it at all. He tried to hang on to it,
> half awake, half asleep."
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> more affirmation!!!!
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> the MoRaT is unassailable!!!
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:51:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT
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> 'Is it better to have wisdom or is it better to be attractive to the ladies?'
> That was a question debated by Provengal poets way back in the thirteenth
> century. Sidis opted for wisdom, but it seemed to Phaedrus there ought to be
> some way you could have both."
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> once again proof Pirsig advocates rape
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> MoRaT affirmed AGAIN!!!
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:44:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT
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> "Just as a farmer raises cows for the sole purpose of devouring them, this
> pattern
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> grows living human bodies for the sole purpose of devouring them."
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> more evidence for the MoRaT, the true MoQ
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> and the most damning evidence that Pirsig indeed affirms
> cannabalism and the rape and torture of inferior peoples:
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> "He also used to wonder if there was a higher farmer that
> did the same thing to people, a different kind of organism
> that they saw every day and thought of as beneficial, providing
> food and shelter and protection from enemies, but an organism
> that secretly was raising these people for its own sustenance,
> feeding upon them and using their accumulated energy for its
> own independent purposes. Later he saw there was"
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> Once again the MoRaT is confirmed!!!
> the true MoQ
> This unassailable position, that devours all platypus,- burp!
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:26:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT
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> More evidence for the MoRaT interpretation
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> where Pirsig justifies cannibalism.
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> "From a Metaphysics of Quality's point of view this devouring of human bodies is
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> a moral activity"
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> The MoRaT is affirmed again!!
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:06:45 AM
> Subject: [MD] the MoRaT
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> And since it seems we can say anything we want to
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> I want to introduce MoRaT
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> The metaphysics of rape and torture
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> Pirsig clearly supports this in my interpretation
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> that rape and torture are morally superior.
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> "
> "Now Phaedrus felt it all around him - the speed, the height, the crowds and
> their tension.
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> All the early strangeness was gone now. He was in it.
> He remembered that its great symbol used to be the ticker tape, ticking out
> unpredictable
> fortunes rising and falling every second, a great symbol of luck. Luck. When E.
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> B. White
> wrote, 'If you want to live in New York you should be willing to be lucky,' he
> meant not just
> 'lucky' but willing to be lucky - that is, Dynamic. If you cling to some set
> static pattern,
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> when opportunity comes you won't take it. You have to hang loose, and when the
> time
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> comes to be lucky, then be lucky: that's Dynamic.
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> clearly pirsig means "ass rape" when he uses the term "lucky"
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> but he will not admit it. Pirsig states that we must seize the opportunity to
> rape
> and torture at every opportunity.
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> This is the real MoQ
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> The one Pirsig meant
> it is so obviouse
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> the rest of you morons refuse to discuss the
> one true MoQ, the MoRaT interpetation.
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> -Ro
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 8:50:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] inorganic patterns & thinking
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> Since the theory is "nothing is real"
> test that theory by standing in traffic
> or jumping off a building.
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> see what happens
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> please
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Magnus Berg <McMagnus at home.se>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 7:24:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] inorganic patterns & thinking
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> On 2010-07-19 11:17, MarshaV wrote:
>> Sight at its very least is not about identified objects, only form and
>> color. But one can experience sight sans even form and color too.
>> It is ALL conceived. It's useful and I wouldn't throw away any but the
>> arrogance of thinking the "real" has been realized.
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> Arrogance is there in SOM, yes, because in SOM, there's no other relationship
> between the perceived object in your head and the object observed.
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> But in MoQ, we know that there *is* a direct dependency from our internal image
> of the object, to the reality of the object via the levels. I'm not saying that
> your brain is supported by *that* stone, but I'm saying that your brain is
> supported by inorganic patterns just *like* a stone.
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> So, in SOM, ALL is conceived. But in MoQ, where we have the level dependency and
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> know that our internal "minds" are supported by inorganic patterns, we can know
> that there are inorganic patterns. From there, I don't think it's arrogant
> anymore to give the stone a status of real.
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> Magnus
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