[MD] the MoRaT

[MarshaV]

Point?  I figured he forgot to take his meds.   Again.    

Marsha


On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:

> Think maybe you've made your point Ron ?
> ;-)
> Ian
> 
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:03 PM, X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:
>> The most damning evidence of all
>> 
>> After Lila rapes Phaedrus, he "see's the light"
>> 
>> "This was the first time he'd been passive like this.
>> Before it had been his idea, his aggression, his carnal
>> desires. Now this passivity seemed to open something up.
>> What he seemed to have seen was that maybe 'he' hadn't
>>  had anything to do with it at all. He tried to hang on to it,
>> half awake, half asleep."
>> 
>> more affirmation!!!!
>> 
>> the MoRaT is unassailable!!!
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:51:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT
>> 
>> 'Is it better to have wisdom or is it better to be attractive to the ladies?'
>> That was a question debated by Provengal poets way back in the thirteenth
>> century. Sidis opted for wisdom, but it seemed to Phaedrus there ought to be
>> some way you could have both."
>> 
>> once again proof Pirsig advocates rape
>> 
>> MoRaT affirmed AGAIN!!!
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:44:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT
>> 
>> "Just as a farmer raises cows for the sole purpose of devouring them, this
>> pattern
>> 
>> grows living human bodies for the sole purpose of devouring them."
>> 
>> 
>> more evidence for the MoRaT, the true MoQ
>> 
>> and the most damning evidence that Pirsig indeed affirms
>> cannabalism and the rape and torture of inferior peoples:
>> 
>> "He also used to wonder if there was a higher farmer that
>> did the same thing to people, a different kind of organism
>> that they saw every day and thought of as beneficial, providing
>>  food and shelter and protection from enemies, but an organism
>> that secretly was raising these people for its own sustenance,
>>  feeding upon them and using their accumulated energy for its
>> own independent purposes. Later he saw there was"
>> 
>> Once again the MoRaT is confirmed!!!
>> the true MoQ
>> This unassailable position, that devours all platypus,- burp!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:26:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT
>> 
>> More evidence for the MoRaT interpretation
>> 
>> where Pirsig justifies cannibalism.
>> 
>> "From a Metaphysics of Quality's point of view this devouring of human bodies is
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> a moral activity"
>> 
>> The MoRaT is affirmed again!!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:06:45 AM
>> Subject: [MD] the MoRaT
>> 
>> And since it seems we can say anything we want to
>> 
>> I want to introduce MoRaT
>> 
>> The metaphysics of rape and torture
>> 
>> Pirsig clearly supports this in my interpretation
>> 
>> that rape and torture are morally superior.
>> 
>> "
>> "Now Phaedrus felt it all around him - the speed, the height, the crowds and
>> their tension.
>> 
>> All the early strangeness was gone now. He was in it.
>> He remembered that its great symbol used to be the ticker tape, ticking out
>> unpredictable
>>  fortunes rising and falling every second, a great symbol of luck. Luck. When E.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> B. White
>>  wrote, 'If you want to live in New York you should be willing to be lucky,' he
>> meant not just
>>  'lucky' but willing to be lucky - that is, Dynamic. If you cling to some set
>> static pattern,
>> 
>> when opportunity comes you won't take it. You have to hang loose, and when the
>> time
>> 
>> comes to be lucky, then be lucky: that's Dynamic.
>> 
>> clearly pirsig means "ass rape" when he uses the term "lucky"
>> 
>> but he will not admit it. Pirsig states that we must seize the opportunity to
>> rape
>> and torture at every opportunity.
>> 
>> This is the real MoQ
>> 
>> The one Pirsig meant
>>  it is so obviouse
>> 
>> the rest of you morons refuse to discuss the
>> one true MoQ, the MoRaT interpetation.
>> 
>> -Ro
>> 
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>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 8:50:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MD] inorganic patterns & thinking
>> 
>> Since the theory is "nothing is real"
>> test that theory by standing in traffic
>> or jumping off a building.
>> 
>> see what happens
>> 
>> please
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Magnus Berg <McMagnus at home.se>
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 7:24:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MD] inorganic patterns & thinking
>> 
>> On 2010-07-19 11:17, MarshaV wrote:
>>> Sight at its very least is not about identified objects, only form and
>>> color.  But one can experience sight sans even form and color too.
>>> It is ALL conceived.  It's useful and I wouldn't throw away any but the
>>> arrogance of thinking the "real" has been realized.
>> 
>> Arrogance is there in SOM, yes, because in SOM, there's no other relationship
>> between the perceived object in your head and the object observed.
>> 
>> But in MoQ, we know that there *is* a direct dependency from our internal image
>> of the object, to the reality of the object via the levels. I'm not saying that
>> your brain is supported by *that* stone, but I'm saying that your brain is
>> supported by inorganic patterns just *like* a stone.
>> 
>> So, in SOM, ALL is conceived. But in MoQ, where we have the level dependency and
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> know that our internal "minds" are supported by inorganic patterns, we can know
>> that there are inorganic patterns. From there, I don't think it's arrogant
>> anymore to give the stone a status of real.
>> 
>>     Magnus
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