[MD] the MoRaT

Platt Holden plattholden at gmail.com
Mon Jul 19 09:49:40 PDT 2010


Hi Marsha,

Me, too. His point is to never quote anyone about anything.
And there goes knowledge down the tube.

More meds anyone?

Platt



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On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:56 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

>
>
>
> Point?  I figured he forgot to take his meds.   Again.
>
> Marsha
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>
> > Think maybe you've made your point Ron ?
> > ;-)
> > Ian
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:03 PM, X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:
> >> The most damning evidence of all
> >>
> >> After Lila rapes Phaedrus, he "see's the light"
> >>
> >> "This was the first time he'd been passive like this.
> >> Before it had been his idea, his aggression, his carnal
> >> desires. Now this passivity seemed to open something up.
> >> What he seemed to have seen was that maybe 'he' hadn't
> >>  had anything to do with it at all. He tried to hang on to it,
> >> half awake, half asleep."
> >>
> >> more affirmation!!!!
> >>
> >> the MoRaT is unassailable!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
> >> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:51:31 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT
> >>
> >> 'Is it better to have wisdom or is it better to be attractive to the
> ladies?'
> >> That was a question debated by Provengal poets way back in the
> thirteenth
> >> century. Sidis opted for wisdom, but it seemed to Phaedrus there ought
> to be
> >> some way you could have both."
> >>
> >> once again proof Pirsig advocates rape
> >>
> >> MoRaT affirmed AGAIN!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
> >> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:44:26 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT
> >>
> >> "Just as a farmer raises cows for the sole purpose of devouring them,
> this
> >> pattern
> >>
> >> grows living human bodies for the sole purpose of devouring them."
> >>
> >>
> >> more evidence for the MoRaT, the true MoQ
> >>
> >> and the most damning evidence that Pirsig indeed affirms
> >> cannabalism and the rape and torture of inferior peoples:
> >>
> >> "He also used to wonder if there was a higher farmer that
> >> did the same thing to people, a different kind of organism
> >> that they saw every day and thought of as beneficial, providing
> >>  food and shelter and protection from enemies, but an organism
> >> that secretly was raising these people for its own sustenance,
> >>  feeding upon them and using their accumulated energy for its
> >> own independent purposes. Later he saw there was"
> >>
> >> Once again the MoRaT is confirmed!!!
> >> the true MoQ
> >> This unassailable position, that devours all platypus,- burp!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
> >> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:26:48 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT
> >>
> >> More evidence for the MoRaT interpretation
> >>
> >> where Pirsig justifies cannibalism.
> >>
> >> "From a Metaphysics of Quality's point of view this devouring of human
> bodies is
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> a moral activity"
> >>
> >> The MoRaT is affirmed again!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
> >> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:06:45 AM
> >> Subject: [MD] the MoRaT
> >>
> >> And since it seems we can say anything we want to
> >>
> >> I want to introduce MoRaT
> >>
> >> The metaphysics of rape and torture
> >>
> >> Pirsig clearly supports this in my interpretation
> >>
> >> that rape and torture are morally superior.
> >>
> >> "
> >> "Now Phaedrus felt it all around him - the speed, the height, the crowds
> and
> >> their tension.
> >>
> >> All the early strangeness was gone now. He was in it.
> >> He remembered that its great symbol used to be the ticker tape, ticking
> out
> >> unpredictable
> >>  fortunes rising and falling every second, a great symbol of luck. Luck.
> When E.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> B. White
> >>  wrote, 'If you want to live in New York you should be willing to be
> lucky,' he
> >> meant not just
> >>  'lucky' but willing to be lucky - that is, Dynamic. If you cling to
> some set
> >> static pattern,
> >>
> >> when opportunity comes you won't take it. You have to hang loose, and
> when the
> >> time
> >>
> >> comes to be lucky, then be lucky: that's Dynamic.
> >>
> >> clearly pirsig means "ass rape" when he uses the term "lucky"
> >>
> >> but he will not admit it. Pirsig states that we must seize the
> opportunity to
> >> rape
> >> and torture at every opportunity.
> >>
> >> This is the real MoQ
> >>
> >> The one Pirsig meant
> >>  it is so obviouse
> >>
> >> the rest of you morons refuse to discuss the
> >> one true MoQ, the MoRaT interpetation.
> >>
> >> -Ro
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com>
> >> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 8:50:26 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [MD] inorganic patterns & thinking
> >>
> >> Since the theory is "nothing is real"
> >> test that theory by standing in traffic
> >> or jumping off a building.
> >>
> >> see what happens
> >>
> >> please
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Magnus Berg <McMagnus at home.se>
> >> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 7:24:25 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [MD] inorganic patterns & thinking
> >>
> >> On 2010-07-19 11:17, MarshaV wrote:
> >>> Sight at its very least is not about identified objects, only form and
> >>> color.  But one can experience sight sans even form and color too.
> >>> It is ALL conceived.  It's useful and I wouldn't throw away any but the
> >>> arrogance of thinking the "real" has been realized.
> >>
> >> Arrogance is there in SOM, yes, because in SOM, there's no other
> relationship
> >> between the perceived object in your head and the object observed.
> >>
> >> But in MoQ, we know that there *is* a direct dependency from our
> internal image
> >> of the object, to the reality of the object via the levels. I'm not
> saying that
> >> your brain is supported by *that* stone, but I'm saying that your brain
> is
> >> supported by inorganic patterns just *like* a stone.
> >>
> >> So, in SOM, ALL is conceived. But in MoQ, where we have the level
> dependency and
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> know that our internal "minds" are supported by inorganic patterns, we
> can know
> >> that there are inorganic patterns. From there, I don't think it's
> arrogant
> >> anymore to give the stone a status of real.
> >>
> >>     Magnus
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