[MD] the MoRaT

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Mon Jul 19 12:31:32 PDT 2010 

  It's a bit odd that the negative and ad hominem comments have come 
from the SOLsters!
Who'd'a thought?

On 19/07/2010 17:49, Platt Holden wrote:
> Hi Marsha,
>
> Me, too. His point is to never quote anyone about anything.
> And there goes knowledge down the tube.
>
> More meds anyone?
>
> Platt
>
>
>
> .
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:56 AM, MarshaV<valkyr at att.net>  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Point?  I figured he forgot to take his meds.   Again.
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>> On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>>
>>> Think maybe you've made your point Ron ?
>>> ;-)
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:03 PM, X Acto<xacto at rocketmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> The most damning evidence of all
>>>>
>>>> After Lila rapes Phaedrus, he "see's the light"
>>>>
>>>> "This was the first time he'd been passive like this.
>>>> Before it had been his idea, his aggression, his carnal
>>>> desires. Now this passivity seemed to open something up.
>>>> What he seemed to have seen was that maybe 'he' hadn't
>>>>   had anything to do with it at all. He tried to hang on to it,
>>>> half awake, half asleep."
>>>>
>>>> more affirmation!!!!
>>>>
>>>> the MoRaT is unassailable!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: X Acto<xacto at rocketmail.com>
>>>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>>>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:51:31 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT
>>>>
>>>> 'Is it better to have wisdom or is it better to be attractive to the
>> ladies?'
>>>> That was a question debated by Provengal poets way back in the
>> thirteenth
>>>> century. Sidis opted for wisdom, but it seemed to Phaedrus there ought
>> to be
>>>> some way you could have both."
>>>>
>>>> once again proof Pirsig advocates rape
>>>>
>>>> MoRaT affirmed AGAIN!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: X Acto<xacto at rocketmail.com>
>>>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>>>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:44:26 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT
>>>>
>>>> "Just as a farmer raises cows for the sole purpose of devouring them,
>> this
>>>> pattern
>>>>
>>>> grows living human bodies for the sole purpose of devouring them."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> more evidence for the MoRaT, the true MoQ
>>>>
>>>> and the most damning evidence that Pirsig indeed affirms
>>>> cannabalism and the rape and torture of inferior peoples:
>>>>
>>>> "He also used to wonder if there was a higher farmer that
>>>> did the same thing to people, a different kind of organism
>>>> that they saw every day and thought of as beneficial, providing
>>>>   food and shelter and protection from enemies, but an organism
>>>> that secretly was raising these people for its own sustenance,
>>>>   feeding upon them and using their accumulated energy for its
>>>> own independent purposes. Later he saw there was"
>>>>
>>>> Once again the MoRaT is confirmed!!!
>>>> the true MoQ
>>>> This unassailable position, that devours all platypus,- burp!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: X Acto<xacto at rocketmail.com>
>>>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>>>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:26:48 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [MD] the MoRaT
>>>>
>>>> More evidence for the MoRaT interpretation
>>>>
>>>> where Pirsig justifies cannibalism.
>>>>
>>>> "From a Metaphysics of Quality's point of view this devouring of human
>> bodies is
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a moral activity"
>>>>
>>>> The MoRaT is affirmed again!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: X Acto<xacto at rocketmail.com>
>>>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>>>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:06:45 AM
>>>> Subject: [MD] the MoRaT
>>>>
>>>> And since it seems we can say anything we want to
>>>>
>>>> I want to introduce MoRaT
>>>>
>>>> The metaphysics of rape and torture
>>>>
>>>> Pirsig clearly supports this in my interpretation
>>>>
>>>> that rape and torture are morally superior.
>>>>
>>>> "
>>>> "Now Phaedrus felt it all around him - the speed, the height, the crowds
>> and
>>>> their tension.
>>>>
>>>> All the early strangeness was gone now. He was in it.
>>>> He remembered that its great symbol used to be the ticker tape, ticking
>> out
>>>> unpredictable
>>>>   fortunes rising and falling every second, a great symbol of luck. Luck.
>> When E.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> B. White
>>>>   wrote, 'If you want to live in New York you should be willing to be
>> lucky,' he
>>>> meant not just
>>>>   'lucky' but willing to be lucky - that is, Dynamic. If you cling to
>> some set
>>>> static pattern,
>>>>
>>>> when opportunity comes you won't take it. You have to hang loose, and
>> when the
>>>> time
>>>>
>>>> comes to be lucky, then be lucky: that's Dynamic.
>>>>
>>>> clearly pirsig means "ass rape" when he uses the term "lucky"
>>>>
>>>> but he will not admit it. Pirsig states that we must seize the
>> opportunity to
>>>> rape
>>>> and torture at every opportunity.
>>>>
>>>> This is the real MoQ
>>>>
>>>> The one Pirsig meant
>>>>   it is so obviouse
>>>>
>>>> the rest of you morons refuse to discuss the
>>>> one true MoQ, the MoRaT interpetation.
>>>>
>>>> -Ro
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: X Acto<xacto at rocketmail.com>
>>>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>>>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 8:50:26 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [MD] inorganic patterns&  thinking
>>>>
>>>> Since the theory is "nothing is real"
>>>> test that theory by standing in traffic
>>>> or jumping off a building.
>>>>
>>>> see what happens
>>>>
>>>> please
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Magnus Berg<McMagnus at home.se>
>>>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>>>> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 7:24:25 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [MD] inorganic patterns&  thinking
>>>>
>>>> On 2010-07-19 11:17, MarshaV wrote:
>>>>> Sight at its very least is not about identified objects, only form and
>>>>> color.  But one can experience sight sans even form and color too.
>>>>> It is ALL conceived.  It's useful and I wouldn't throw away any but the
>>>>> arrogance of thinking the "real" has been realized.
>>>> Arrogance is there in SOM, yes, because in SOM, there's no other
>> relationship
>>>> between the perceived object in your head and the object observed.
>>>>
>>>> But in MoQ, we know that there *is* a direct dependency from our
>> internal image
>>>> of the object, to the reality of the object via the levels. I'm not
>> saying that
>>>> your brain is supported by *that* stone, but I'm saying that your brain
>> is
>>>> supported by inorganic patterns just *like* a stone.
>>>>
>>>> So, in SOM, ALL is conceived. But in MoQ, where we have the level
>> dependency and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> know that our internal "minds" are supported by inorganic patterns, we
>> can know
>>>> that there are inorganic patterns. From there, I don't think it's
>> arrogant
>>>> anymore to give the stone a status of real.
>>>>
>>>>      Magnus
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