[MD] inorganic patterns & thinking

[John Carl]

Well Marsha, just because you can refute Robbins, doesn't mean you have to
or want to.

Why do something just because you can?

Unless it's something really important like licking your own...  oops, you
don't have those, do you.

Do you?

As you say, it's so tricky in this wide world of virtual reality to really
know who has what.

Throwing away your father's bible can be very therapeutic.  But if all you
got to show for it after all this time is "not this, not that", I'd dust off
the coffee grounds and eggshells and wipe away the blood and look for
something more positive.

But then, that's me.


yours as usual,


John


On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:47 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

> John,
>
> Too much like whenever and whatever you, John, say it is...   Sure, you're
> cute, but so what?  I most certainly can refute Tom Robbins.  I threw my
> bloody bible (father and all) into the the garbage and heaped on coffee
> grounds and egg shells.
>
> With care,
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:34 PM, John Carl wrote:
>
> > You bet greed and materialism evolved for reasons, Marsha.  But were they
> > good reasons?  Or bad reasons?
> >
> > The age old question, asked of Dorothy by the munchkins, "Are you a good
> > witch?  Or a bad witch?"
> >
> > Applying the question to reason itself, I'd say that Reason has
> definitely
> > been a good thing.  It's freed women, men and children from the
> oppressions
> > of nature, allowing humanity to blanket the earth with comfortable
> > fecundity.
> >
> > Unfortunately, what men, women and children have done with their freedom
> is
> > another story entirely.
> >
> > Reason has its limits, that aren't reason's fault.
> >
> > Anymore than its my hammer's fault that it's not an open-end 7/16 inch
> > wrench.
> >
> > And I still think things like to be realized, and that's why there's
> > intellect.
> >
> > Water invented man, so it could walk around and tell stories.
> >
> > You can't refute Tom Robbins,
> >
> > Take care,
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:51 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:41 AM, John Carl wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well  yes.  But its a relationship created by the thinking.  Not
> >> naturally
> >>> arising just because granite, gravity and protons are "there".
> >>>
> >>> In other words, consciousness evolved for a reason.  Or reason evolved
> >> for a
> >>> reason, and that reason is that gravity, protons and granite like to be
> >>> realized.
> >>
> >>
> >> John,
> >>
> >> Reason evolved for a reason?  Either it did or it didn't.  Oh goodie,
> than
> >> greed
> >> and Materialism evolved for a reason.  Long live Plato and Aristotle!!!
> >> Down
> >> with all women!!!  Down with passion and heart!!!  (sarcastically
> written)
> >>
> >> Or maybe reason evolved with a twenty-five-hundred year-old distortion,
> a
> >> masculine dis-ease, so pleased is he with his own ability to destroy.
> >> Yes, I _think_ that is more likely.
> >>
> >>
> >> Marsha
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> so make their day.  Think about them and fulfill their (and your)
> >> destiny.
> >>>
> >>> Happy thinking, dear Marsha,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:13 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Greetings,
> >>>>
> >>>> Do lead, granite, gravity and protons, all as patterns, have a
> >> relationship
> >>>> with
> >>>> thinking/thoughts/consciousness?  Do all patterns from all levels have
> a
> >>>> relationship with thinking/thoughts/consciousness?  I do not mean to
> >>>> insinuate
> >>>> that they are just ideas, but that they have a relationship with
> >> thinking.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Marsha
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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