[MD] inorganic patterns & thinking

[MarshaV]

On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:37 PM, John Carl wrote:

> Well Marsha, just because you can refute Robbins, doesn't mean you have to
> or want to.
> 
> Why do something just because you can?
> 
> Unless it's something really important like licking your own...  oops, you
> don't have those, do you.
> 
> Do you?
> 
> As you say, it's so tricky in this wide world of virtual reality to really
> know who has what.
> 
> Throwing away your father's bible can be very therapeutic.  But if all you
> got to show for it after all this time is "not this, not that", I'd dust off
> the coffee grounds and eggshells and wipe away the blood and look for
> something more positive.

John,

You can be such a patronizing dunderhead.   I didn't throw away my father's 
bible, I threw away the bible and the father dwelling within it.


Marsha  
 




> 
> But then, that's me.
> 
> 
> yours as usual,
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:47 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> John,
>> 
>> Too much like whenever and whatever you, John, say it is...   Sure, you're
>> cute, but so what?  I most certainly can refute Tom Robbins.  I threw my
>> bloody bible (father and all) into the the garbage and heaped on coffee
>> grounds and egg shells.
>> 
>> With care,
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:34 PM, John Carl wrote:
>> 
>>> You bet greed and materialism evolved for reasons, Marsha.  But were they
>>> good reasons?  Or bad reasons?
>>> 
>>> The age old question, asked of Dorothy by the munchkins, "Are you a good
>>> witch?  Or a bad witch?"
>>> 
>>> Applying the question to reason itself, I'd say that Reason has
>> definitely
>>> been a good thing.  It's freed women, men and children from the
>> oppressions
>>> of nature, allowing humanity to blanket the earth with comfortable
>>> fecundity.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, what men, women and children have done with their freedom
>> is
>>> another story entirely.
>>> 
>>> Reason has its limits, that aren't reason's fault.
>>> 
>>> Anymore than its my hammer's fault that it's not an open-end 7/16 inch
>>> wrench.
>>> 
>>> And I still think things like to be realized, and that's why there's
>>> intellect.
>>> 
>>> Water invented man, so it could walk around and tell stories.
>>> 
>>> You can't refute Tom Robbins,
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:51 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:41 AM, John Carl wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Well  yes.  But its a relationship created by the thinking.  Not
>>>> naturally
>>>>> arising just because granite, gravity and protons are "there".
>>>>> 
>>>>> In other words, consciousness evolved for a reason.  Or reason evolved
>>>> for a
>>>>> reason, and that reason is that gravity, protons and granite like to be
>>>>> realized.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> John,
>>>> 
>>>> Reason evolved for a reason?  Either it did or it didn't.  Oh goodie,
>> than
>>>> greed
>>>> and Materialism evolved for a reason.  Long live Plato and Aristotle!!!
>>>> Down
>>>> with all women!!!  Down with passion and heart!!!  (sarcastically
>> written)
>>>> 
>>>> Or maybe reason evolved with a twenty-five-hundred year-old distortion,
>> a
>>>> masculine dis-ease, so pleased is he with his own ability to destroy.
>>>> Yes, I _think_ that is more likely.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> so make their day.  Think about them and fulfill their (and your)
>>>> destiny.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Happy thinking, dear Marsha,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:13 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do lead, granite, gravity and protons, all as patterns, have a
>>>> relationship
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> thinking/thoughts/consciousness?  Do all patterns from all levels have
>> a
>>>>>> relationship with thinking/thoughts/consciousness?  I do not mean to
>>>>>> insinuate
>>>>>> that they are just ideas, but that they have a relationship with
>>>> thinking.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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