[MD] inorganic patterns & thinking

[John Carl]

I agree completely, Marsha.

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

>
>
> You can be such a patronizing dunderhead.


I can't lick my balls but I can be a patronizing dunderhead.

The dunderhead part I can't change.  But the patronizing part I certainly
can.  What is my alternative?  A matronizing dunderhead?

Maybe I'll give it a shot.  Show me how.

I didn't throw away my father's
> bible, I threw away the bible and the father dwelling within it.
>
>
I believe throwing away the bible to be a high quality experience in the
quest for self-realization and have done it myself.

I've also found picking it up again to have high value as well.  Especially
with the right attitude, and by the "right attitude" I don't mean anything
esoteric or mystic.  I mean simply, intellectually and comparatively, in the
correct context of an understanding of the ultimate metaphysical
underpinnings of the world which allows us to pick up any tome, any teaching
and ask, "is it good?"

As opposed to the ways of modern religious indoctrination and control, which
I also abhor.

Hmmmm...  Matronizing dunderhead..  I actually might try that.

John




>
> Marsha
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > But then, that's me.
> >
> >
> > yours as usual,
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:47 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> >
> >> John,
> >>
> >> Too much like whenever and whatever you, John, say it is...   Sure,
> you're
> >> cute, but so what?  I most certainly can refute Tom Robbins.  I threw my
> >> bloody bible (father and all) into the the garbage and heaped on coffee
> >> grounds and egg shells.
> >>
> >> With care,
> >>
> >> Marsha
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:34 PM, John Carl wrote:
> >>
> >>> You bet greed and materialism evolved for reasons, Marsha.  But were
> they
> >>> good reasons?  Or bad reasons?
> >>>
> >>> The age old question, asked of Dorothy by the munchkins, "Are you a
> good
> >>> witch?  Or a bad witch?"
> >>>
> >>> Applying the question to reason itself, I'd say that Reason has
> >> definitely
> >>> been a good thing.  It's freed women, men and children from the
> >> oppressions
> >>> of nature, allowing humanity to blanket the earth with comfortable
> >>> fecundity.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately, what men, women and children have done with their
> freedom
> >> is
> >>> another story entirely.
> >>>
> >>> Reason has its limits, that aren't reason's fault.
> >>>
> >>> Anymore than its my hammer's fault that it's not an open-end 7/16 inch
> >>> wrench.
> >>>
> >>> And I still think things like to be realized, and that's why there's
> >>> intellect.
> >>>
> >>> Water invented man, so it could walk around and tell stories.
> >>>
> >>> You can't refute Tom Robbins,
> >>>
> >>> Take care,
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:51 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:41 AM, John Carl wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Well  yes.  But its a relationship created by the thinking.  Not
> >>>> naturally
> >>>>> arising just because granite, gravity and protons are "there".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In other words, consciousness evolved for a reason.  Or reason
> evolved
> >>>> for a
> >>>>> reason, and that reason is that gravity, protons and granite like to
> be
> >>>>> realized.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> John,
> >>>>
> >>>> Reason evolved for a reason?  Either it did or it didn't.  Oh goodie,
> >> than
> >>>> greed
> >>>> and Materialism evolved for a reason.  Long live Plato and
> Aristotle!!!
> >>>> Down
> >>>> with all women!!!  Down with passion and heart!!!  (sarcastically
> >> written)
> >>>>
> >>>> Or maybe reason evolved with a twenty-five-hundred year-old
> distortion,
> >> a
> >>>> masculine dis-ease, so pleased is he with his own ability to destroy.
> >>>> Yes, I _think_ that is more likely.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Marsha
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> so make their day.  Think about them and fulfill their (and your)
> >>>> destiny.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Happy thinking, dear Marsha,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:13 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Greetings,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Do lead, granite, gravity and protons, all as patterns, have a
> >>>> relationship
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>> thinking/thoughts/consciousness?  Do all patterns from all levels
> have
> >> a
> >>>>>> relationship with thinking/thoughts/consciousness?  I do not mean to
> >>>>>> insinuate
> >>>>>> that they are just ideas, but that they have a relationship with
> >>>> thinking.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Marsha
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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